Go Back   AAPC Medical Coding & Billing Forums > Medical Coding > E/M

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 02-18-2008, 09:34 AM
JOGelico's Avatar
JOGelico JOGelico is offline
Networker
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: East Orange
Posts: 28
JOGelico is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Well/Physical and E/M

Hello Everyone,
If a patient's reason for a visit is for a physical, but the physician discusses lab results, addresses other problems, etc; can a Well Code (99381-99397) and an E/M visit be coded together? Would the E/M code be coded with a modifier 25?

Any help will be appreciated!
Thanks,
Jessica
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-18-2008, 10:34 AM
LOVE2CODE LOVE2CODE is offline
Expert
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 295
LOVE2CODE is on a distinguished road
Smile

A Well Code and E/M visit can be coded together; E/M has to have a modifier 25 attached
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-18-2008, 11:17 AM
S Avara CPC S Avara CPC is offline
Networker
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Baton Rouge Local Chapter
Posts: 41
S Avara CPC is on a distinguished road
Default

Absolutely. The CPT states that if an abnormality is encountered or a preexisting problem is addressed in the process of performing a preventive E/M service, and if the problem is significant enough to require additional work to perform the key components of a problem-oriented E/M service, the the appropriate office visit code should also be reported with modifier 25. You should also code and immunizations and/or diagnostic tests performed.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-19-2008, 12:17 PM
JOGelico's Avatar
JOGelico JOGelico is offline
Networker
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: East Orange
Posts: 28
JOGelico is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Are these the same codes to use for Medicare patients?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-20-2008, 11:17 AM
rfayec rfayec is offline
Contributor
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 21
rfayec is on a distinguished road
Default

Some offices will not do both at the same time due to insurance issues. Some companines will not pay both or make it hard to collect. My GYN office gives a form that states they will not do both services on the same day. If a problem arrises during a PE, it's addressed coded and the PE rescheduled.
So, I'd check with the carrier first.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-20-2008, 02:35 PM
Lisa Bledsoe Lisa Bledsoe is offline
True Blue
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Greeley, Colorado
Posts: 2,034
Lisa Bledsoe is on a distinguished road
Default

If you are going to report both an E/M and preventive medicine, be sure to follow the guidelines in CPT. The E/M portion must be significant enough to require additional work to perform the key components of a problem-oriented E/M service." And of course it MUST be well documented.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-20-2008, 02:59 PM
racheleporter's Avatar
racheleporter racheleporter is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fontana
Posts: 170
racheleporter is on a distinguished road
Default response to well/physican and e/m

to piggy back off of lisa curtis....please note the dx for the preventative must be different from the dx for the e/m
__________________
Rachele Porter, AS, CPC, CPC-H, CEDC
no weapons formed against me shall prosper
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-20-2008, 05:47 PM
acodingangel acodingangel is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Modesto, CA; Central Valley Chapter
Posts: 223
acodingangel is on a distinguished road
Default

And.......don't forget that Medicare has specific guidelines that must be followed regarding the billing and cost to the beneficiary when they schedule a preventive and end up with both a preventive and 'sick' visit.

Check with your local Medicare Carrier.

Thanks
Tina
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




Disclaimer: Although AAPC staff members will monitor these forums periodically, we cannot be responsible for the information posted herein, nor guarantee its accuracy. Our members may discuss various subjects related to medical coding, but none of the information should replace the independent judgment of a physician for any given health issue. Please note that the opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of AAPC.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:46 PM.

AAPC - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2011, AAPCAd Management plugin by RedTyger