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I have been searching for a coding job for over 5 years. I have an associate's degree in MOT and I am now a CPC. I am still searching for a job. I have done externship with an AAPC accredited company. Still there are no jobs available in my state for those with no experience. What can we do as a community to change this. I spoke with the president in my local chapter. She speaks as if we can not change the way things are. I believe that we can if we all pull together and work hard for what we believe in. I want to know is there anyone else out there that is having this same issue. I know of several other people in my area. Someone please help me to change this. I am not going to give up. Though at times I do get a little discouraged about this. I am 30 year old single mother of three and in dyer need of a job with a lasting career in the medical coding field. I have many other talents but they are not a challenge to me only this medical field is my biggest challenge. So if you hear me, feel me and understand me help me please! We are counting on helping hands and those of you who are having this same issue. To push this through all states around the world to give people that do not have experience to give them the opportunity to gain experiene with varies companies besides just dong volunteer work which is a great thing. But after you have taking that step where do you go from there. I have been faxing my resume, posting my resume and building my resume. I am not looking for a hand out just a breakthrough. I will work hard for what I believe in and this is something that I will work hard for to change. I just need people on y side and to help shjow me the way. Thanks
Tanisha Saunders Atlanta, Georgia native. I can be contacted through email: ttsaunders1@bellsouth.net. DESPERATELY SEEKING FOR ANSWER:)
 

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something will come along

I live in the Chicago area and the adds I see also want experience. The way I see it, you've got a few options. You could apply for jobs that are looking for experience and tell the interviewer about your education history and how well you did in school and on your test and how motivated you are and tell them that you know you will be a valuable asset to them if they give you the chance. You could apply as an entry-level medical receptionist and watch for and ask for coding-related responsibilities until you have enough to include on a resume. You could also change fields but you don't seem like a quitter. :) Good luck!
 

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Entry-level coding positon desired

We're all in the same boat as graduates of coding programs and certified professions without work experience. I'm a fresh newbie - graduated last November and passed AHIMA's CCA exam on Jan. 11, 2008. I'm applying for anything and everything in the medical industry that I have a chance (or maybe not) of getting. The next AAPC externships in Louisville, KY, are scheduled for May. I'm trying for one of those, but I'm not sure how I'll support myself during the three months traineeship. It's hard to sustain a happy face and glorious optimism, but life goes on and we must stick together and try, try, try! Feel free to email at phogan@fastmail.fm
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I know what you mean

Hi
I AM IN THE SAME SITUATION, I HAVE BEEN TRYIN TO FIND A JOB IN MEDICAL CODING AS WELL AND THE AREA WHERE I LIVE IT IS EVEN HARDER, BUT I HAVE HAD SOME OPPORTUNITIES, BUT OUT OF FEAR I GAVE UP, BUT I HAVE LEARNED FROM THAT. I ADMIRE YOUR ENDURANCE, AND BELIEVE ME IT IS GOING TO BE WORTH IT. I SEE THAT YOU HAVE SENT YOUR RESUME OUT, BUT HAVE YOU TRIED LOOKING UP YELLOWBOOK. COM AND FIND ALL OF THE CLINICS IN YOUR AREA AND MAIL OUT YOUR RESUME, I BELIEVE SOMETHING WILL TURN UP. SO KEEP HANGING IN THERE.

P.S. DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE RELIGIOUS, BUT READ ROMANS 8:31

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not so easy for experienced coders either.

Just wanted you to know that it is not easy for experienced coders either! There are so many jobs but way more applicant's going for the same jobs. I have been billing/coding for 10 years now and I have been trying to get into more "coding" for a surgeon, or radiology.

I've been getting alot of calls/interviews but with so many "coders" being certified and looking for jobs it's just not an easy task.

I just wanted to share that info with you so that you know that your not alone and it's not easy all the way around.

I wish you luck,

Roxanne Thames, CPC













I have been searching for a coding job for over 5 years. I have an associate's degree in MOT and I am now a CPC. I am still searching for a job. I have done externship with an AAPC accredited company. Still there are no jobs available in my state for those with no experience. What can we do as a community to change this. I spoke with the president in my local chapter. She speaks as if we can not change the way things are. I believe that we can if we all pull together and work hard for what we believe in. I want to know is there anyone else out there that is having this same issue. I know of several other people in my area. Someone please help me to change this. I am not going to give up. Though at times I do get a little discouraged about this. I am 30 year old single mother of three and in dyer need of a job with a lasting career in the medical coding field. I have many other talents but they are not a challenge to me only this medical field is my biggest challenge. So if you hear me, feel me and understand me help me please! We are counting on helping hands and those of you who are having this same issue. To push this through all states around the world to give people that do not have experience to give them the opportunity to gain experiene with varies companies besides just dong volunteer work which is a great thing. But after you have taking that step where do you go from there. I have been faxing my resume, posting my resume and building my resume. I am not looking for a hand out just a breakthrough. I will work hard for what I believe in and this is something that I will work hard for to change. I just need people on y side and to help shjow me the way. Thanks
Tanisha Saunders Atlanta, Georgia native. I can be contacted through email: ttsaunders1@bellsouth.net. DESPERATELY SEEKING FOR ANSWER:)
 

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Temp agencies are an awesome asset too, thats how I landed my coding job, then I moved 90 miles away and contacted the same temp agency and was placed within two weeks, both companies that I was hired by bought out the contract through the temp agency and hired me full time.

Good Luck :)
 

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I love being a contract coder

Experience is the key, possibly revamping that resume' will get you in the door so you can sell yourself, I have worked in this field for over 13 years, I began with an entry level clerical position and have been a traveling coder since July of last year. I LOVE IT! There are so many opportunities out there. Each assignment I've been on has offered me job opportunities but I like the temporary nature of things...kind of a test drive :). I realize not everyone can leave home, some of these companies offer remote coding. If you can sell yourself and work hard you will succeed...I don't believe you'd be a coder if you couldn't. kwortmann@charter.net
 

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no jobs for inexperienced coders

I too have been looking for a job and as a CPC-A it is discouraging when you hear or read that employers want you to have at least 2 years experience. I am an LPN and completed my certification in medical billing and coding with graduation this past Spring; as a nurse I have had experience in Oncology,Orthopaedic Surgical, Med. Surg. and Long term care (usually on a skilled unit due to prior hospital experience), I too have been feeling like throwing in the towel but then I think that somewhere this combined knowledge would be a great asset for some company and one day soon some one will realize it. My story along with the others on the page of no jobs for inexperienced coders tells me that something else needs to be done to change this waiting process. Gail Rogers LPN CPC-A
 

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Not sure how close any are located to you but the local VA hospitals will hire coders that have just graduated and will train you.

I know it is frustrating. I have 12 years of coding experience. Once I had my daughter I knew I wanted to stay home and opted to apply for remote coding positions only. Even with my experience and background it took me a full year to find a position.

Do not give up and stick with it.....
 

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I too have been looking for a job and as a CPC-A it is discouraging when you hear or read that employers want you to have at least 2 years experience. I am an LPN and completed my certification in medical billing and coding with graduation this past Spring; as a nurse I have had experience in Oncology,Orthopaedic Surgical, Med. Surg. and Long term care (usually on a skilled unit due to prior hospital experience), I too have been feeling like throwing in the towel but then I think that somewhere this combined knowledge would be a great asset for some company and one day soon some one will realize it. My story along with the others on the page of no jobs for inexperienced coders tells me that something else needs to be done to change this waiting process. Gail Rogers LPN CPC-A
Gail...I share in your frustration!!!!! Have you tried looking under "chart review"? I have seen more coding jobs under that heading that want nursing experience. Believe me, I'm the queen of job searching right now!!:)

What is so frustrating is that they don't even give you a chance! If they would just give an interview, at least they can really see who you are....a cover letter and resume can only say so much! Anyone else have any suggestions for us...just to get in the door at entry level, just to be given a chance??

I also want to thank Kelly, you always are there with suggestions and words of encouragement. I just want you to know it's greatly appreciated!!!;)
 

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Hooray for Kelly!!!

Yes, Kelly is wonderful. Thank you Kelly for being so wonderful to the group. You are a big help to all of us....
 

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Hi Kelly L.,

I currently am a stay at home mother and seek employment in a business where I can work from home and can best utilize my experience and knowledge. Would you mind telling me if they are hiring where you work at?
I saw that your a remote claims auditor.

Thank you!
Diana
 

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Diana,
I tried to send you a private msg but it was blocked. I was going to provide u more info on the company I work for.
 

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Hi Kelly,

I too am interested in working from home. Part time is fine with me to start if that is what I need to do. I am a victim of the work from home scams and was interested if you could provide some information on your company or companies that may be hiring to work from home. I appreciate your help.

Thanks, Rhonda
 

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I posted under job postings approx 6 new threads that had remote coding positions. Take a look at some of those as I know some such as Outcomes are still hiring.

Good luck and keep me posted on how things go.
 

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That is the point! Employers are not giving new coders with NO experience a chance. It is very said that you have all these tech schools, colleges, AAPC, AHIMA, Coding bootcamp, etc making money off of people who are eager to learn something new and who pass the required test and then what.NO JOB! This really seems illegal. They promote medical coding like it going out of style. And then no one wants to hire you. It is sad for a lack of better words.
 

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I am mentoring a CPC-A and suggested he call a billing service I used to work for. He was initially turned down. I told him to call the owner, explain his situation and ask if there was anything he could do. He has an interview tomorrow for data entry. Knowing the service, if he proves himself, he will move up pretty fast, gaining experience....

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I too am looking for a job.

I, too am looking for coding job. I have sent resumes to about 20 doctor's offices. I have answered ads in the paper for positions that are entry level. I guess for those positions I was over qualified. All I want is a chance. I too would like to know where I can find that chance. It is discouraging but if I can pass the certification exam. I can get a job. Thanks for all the encouragement. Some days it is needed more than others. If anyone wants to email me you can at Jweil511@aol.com
 

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It's not just appretices that are having trouble as you can see from this thread.

I have been in the coding/billing field for over twenty years! I recently decided to make it "legit" and took and passed the CPC exam.

Just today I sent a resume to HIMONCALL and got shut down immediately, "We need someone with three years experience." Experience doing WHAT??!! Just because I have not held a job sitting for eight hours straight coding charts, doesn't mean I'm not experienced with coding! Billers use their coding books all day, every day! Give me a break!

Sorry, just had to get that out. :eek:
 

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I just completed 2-1/2 years of medical insurance billing courses in Woodland Hills, (Los Angeles) California. I'm trying to get “my foot in the door” as well--in an outpatient facility whether it's in a medical center or a doctor's office.

Currently, I'm preparing to take the CPC-A exam in October. I have years of experience working as an Executive Administrative Assistant/Legal Transcriber, but it's very difficult to get in the medical field as a coder without medical experience and certification. We have to start somewhere. This is very frustrating, because years ago my friends learned on the job as a temporary employee without any formal training from school. Then they were hired permanently, and to this day they aren't certified.

If there's a demand in coding, why is it that we're being shut out? I've even heard from those who took the certification exam that it's too advanced from what we were taught in school. My former classmate told me that “our teachers need to get connected with some hospital sources or medical groups that know coding and can give them some inside operating reports or real life scenarios or something to be taught in class . . . because some of them including teachers have to take the certification exam several times in order to pass it.” I was shocked when I heard this, because we had so much work in school and it was overwhelming, plus they studied Carol Buck's study guide months in advanced and did well on the sample exams.

AAPC is well aware of this, and they agree that the certification exam is too advanced. They received many complaints about the exam.

Now there are coding books that are pretty advanced, and I'm working with those. Then there are the $149 CEU classes and audio tapes, but basically I was told it consists of things we already learned--which is a lot of book reading. Then there are low cost CEU courses.

I don't mean to be "long winded," but I just think a change needs to come, because I need to start working as a coder soon.
 

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The exam is easy to pass if you use the AAPC study guides. My study group had 100% pass rate. My office currenly has an intern that took classes at a Junior college, her books are telling her different information than the AAPC study guides. She was taught one way and we all were taught another way that is supported by CMS, NCCI, CPT and ICD-9 guidelines. She thinks she is correct and won't conform, which makes her useless. Someone is always checking her work. If you want to pass a test given by the AAPC, you need to study AAPC information. Coders are hard to find. Many of our applicants past work experience is being a bartender, hair dresser, waitress. These are all great honest livings, however they do not have the medical back ground. If I were to give advice, I would say to become a Medical Assistant, Medical office worker of some kind, so you have that to show up on your past work experience. Volunteer at a hospital in medical records. Get exposure. There are thousands of coding jobs out there. There are thousands of coders that do not know what they are doing. Unfortunately, wrong coding coudl have punitive consequences for coders, and physicians. Huge Liability.
 
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Sonjagirl,
You write: AAPC is well aware of this, and they agree that the certification exam is too advanced.

I beg to differ. The test is NOT too advanced. It is not easy, but then it shouldn't be. AAPC does review comments on the exams, and statistical evidence that questions on the exam may be incorrect; and those questions are later deleted and/or exam results corrected.

But that doesn't mean the test is too advanced. And AAPC has certainly never "agreed" that it is.

I realize that it's very frustrating to have studied for two years and still feel that you are not prepared. Remember that John Kennedy Jr had to take his bar exam 3 times before he passed, and no one ever said he didn't study in law school.

Get the AAPC study guide and practice exam. Prepare yourself for a challenging 5-hour exam. Get a good night's rest the night before and go into the exam knowing it will be difficult, but that you are well-prepared.

As for needing experience - follow Icode4U's suggestions about getting your foot in the door. Work as a transcriptionist, an admin assistant, a medical records clerk, some entry-level position that will give you the exposure to the field and the opportunity to learn more. Many of us did not start out as "coders;" we worked our way up into those positions.

Good luck to you.
F Tessa Bartels, CPC, CPC-E/M
 

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In response to the comment from above:

"AAPC is well aware of this, and they agree that the certification exam is too advanced. They received many complaints about the exam."

I believe AAPC knows the exam is hard, but it is to test your knowledge. It certainly isn't a gimme. I am sure they have rec'd complaints, that doesn't mean they "agree that its too advanced." I have never heard this, and I dont believe this comment.

Frankly, For my CPC and CPC-H I got the study guide (ISP modules for "H" also). If you know the questions in the study guide and/or ISP modules questions, AND you know your guidelines, it is a hard exam, but its a fair exam. It is life in the real world. There was no study guide when I took my E/M exam. I passed each exam the first time. I took it way serious, worked with my resources above and my coding books and worried a lot (LOL).

Also, a lot of schools now days are promising people lots of money with no experience. If you cant get a job right out of school, that is not AAPCs fault, its the schools. Its probably nothing to school if you get a job or not, they already have your money.

Sorry if I am ranting, my 2 cents worth. And remember, the CPC is the gold standard, it should be worth more!!!

Machelle
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Sonjagirl,
You write: AAPC is well aware of this, and they agree that the certification exam is too advanced.

I beg to differ. The test is NOT too advanced. It is not easy, but then it shouldn't be. AAPC does review comments on the exams, and statistical evidence that questions on the exam may be incorrect; and those questions are later deleted and/or exam results corrected.

But that doesn't mean the test is too advanced. And AAPC has certainly never "agreed" that it is.

I realize that it's very frustrating to have studied for two years and still feel that you are not prepared. Remember that John Kennedy Jr had to take his bar exam 3 times before he passed, and no one ever said he didn't study in law school.

Get the AAPC study guide and practice exam. Prepare yourself for a challenging 5-hour exam. Get a good night's rest the night before and go into the exam knowing it will be difficult, but that you are well-prepared.

As for needing experience - follow Icode4U's suggestions about getting your foot in the door. Work as a transcriptionist, an admin assistant, a medical records clerk, some entry-level position that will give you the exposure to the field and the opportunity to learn more. Many of us did not start out as "coders;" we worked our way up into those positions.

Good luck to you.
F Tessa Bartels, CPC, CPC-E/M
My former classmate wrote the bolded information by e-mail. Then we talked on the phone for hours. I haven't had a chance to take the exam yet. All the comments above, came from her and others I personally know such as a consultant from Maxim. She test coders, and she told me out of 60 that she tested at her agency, about 2 passed--even though they passed all their classes at school. Thanks for your input.
 
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In response to the comment from above:

"AAPC is well aware of this, and they agree that the certification exam is too advanced. They received many complaints about the exam."
I believe AAPC knows the exam is hard, but it is to test your knowledge. It certainly isn't a gimme. I am sure they have rec'd complaints, that doesn't mean they "agree that its too advanced." I have never heard this, and I dont believe this comment.

Frankly, For my CPC and CPC-H I got the study guide (ISP modules for "H" also). If you know the questions in the study guide and/or ISP modules questions, AND you know your guidelines, it is a hard exam, but its a fair exam. It is life in the real world. There was no study guide when I took my E/M exam. I passed each exam the first time. I took it way serious, worked with my resources above and my coding books and worried a lot (LOL).

Also, a lot of schools now days are promising people lots of money with no experience. If you cant get a job right out of school, that is not AAPCs fault, its the schools. Its probably nothing to school if you get a job or not, they already have your money.

Sorry if I am ranting, my 2 cents worth. And remember, the CPC is the gold standard, it should be worth more!!!

Machelle
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These are comments from those who have taken the exam. Now I do know a few who passed it, but they did say it wasn't easy. Only one said it was easy. They took it before 2008. I heard that 2008 exam is much harder than the previous exams.

I thought AHIMA was the gold standard. That's what I've been told by various teachers.

I appreciate all of your comments. Thanks for the feedback.
 
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The exam is easy to pass if you use the AAPC study guides. My study group had 100% pass rate. My office currenly has an intern that took classes at a Junior college, her books are telling her different information than the AAPC study guides. She was taught one way and we all were taught another way that is supported by CMS, NCCI, CPT and ICD-9 guidelines. She thinks she is correct and won't conform, which makes her useless. Someone is always checking her work. If you want to pass a test given by the AAPC, you need to study AAPC information. Coders are hard to find. Many of our applicants past work experience is being a bartender, hair dresser, waitress. These are all great honest livings, however they do not have the medical back ground. If I were to give advice, I would say to become a Medical Assistant, Medical office worker of some kind, so you have that to show up on your past work experience. Volunteer at a hospital in medical records. Get exposure. There are thousands of coding jobs out there. There are thousands of coders that do not know what they are doing. Unfortunately, wrong coding coudl have punitive consequences for coders, and physicians. Huge Liability.
How long were her classes? I have the book by AAPC, but it has Carol Buck's input in it, which I was told by AAPC that it is the same as the one they sell; just a different cover and it also has Carol Buck's input. The formal name of the study guide is 2008 CPC Coding Exam Review - The Certification Step by Carol J. Buck. This is the one my teacher studied from and passed, and this is the one she recommended to us.

Plus, I have the Extra Step work book with a CD. I find the exercises very challenging than the ones in class. Fortunately, the answers and rational are provided. I have other coding training books as well (with the answers), so I've been at this for quite a while.

I didn't go to a private school in Los Angeles, because I wanted longer classes (more than a year). I didn't want to rush through them. However, my coding teachers are certified--one with her own medical insurance billing company, and the other is also certified. Both have been in the medical field for quite a long time, plus one also teaches at a private school. She's really good, and gives us so much work that it's overwhelming. Incidentally, she feels that the private school where she teaches doesn't offer "in-depth coding" like our public school.
 
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Project extern would be a great help for those of you, who want to get some experience. I know, it is sad, you have to work for free, but you get hands on experience every day basis. And after that, when they like you, most of the time, you will get hired. Hope things will go well with you guys.
Why don't you study for CCS too and take the exam? AHIMA does not have "CCS-A". The exam is much much harder, but worth it. You will have lots more doors open, when you get your CCS certification too.

And remember, it is NOT always easy to find the first job. I had to work for free part-time project extern job, for 4 months. It was not easy, but, luckily, I got hired afterwards. Don't expect to get paid more than $17-18 per hour, if you are new. Just you have to think ahead and tell yourself, "this is just the start".
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In search of a coding job

Well, I see that I am not alone on the jobless front. I graduated from a Billing & Coding program in March of this year and still do not have a job. I will be taking the CPC exam real soon. I thought getting certified would be my in for a job. However, after reading these threads I see that is not the case. I still will not have that much needed work experience that every employer wants. I have also applied for reception and clerical positions hoping that would be an in. So far, no luck. I want to keep trying, but it does get you down. I live in a large medical community also. I feel your pain.

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Project extern would be a great help for those of you, who want to get some experience. I know, it is sad, you have to work for free, but you get hands on experience every day basis. And after that, when they like you, most of the time, you will get hired. Hope things will go well with you guys.
Why don't you study for CCS too and take the exam? AHIMA does not have "CCS-A". The exam is much much harder, but worth it. You will have lots more doors open, when you get your CCS certification too.

And remember, it is NOT always easy to find the first job. I had to work for free part-time project extern job, for 4 months. It was not easy, but, luckily, I got hired afterwards. Don't expect to get paid more than $17-18 per hour, if you are new. Just you have to think ahead and tell yourself, "this is just the start".
Lilit
I sent my resume to every organization listed for this city, and I haven't heard from anyone. Also, I read the same complaint from another member who lives here. This is quite discouraging and sad.
 

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Well, I see that I am not alone on the jobless front. I graduated from a Billing & Coding program in March of this year and still do not have a job. I will be taking the CPC exam real soon. I thought getting certified would be my in for a job. However, after reading these threads I see that is not the case. I still will not have that much needed work experience that every employer wants. I have also applied for reception and clerical positions hoping that would be an in. So far, no luck. I want to keep trying, but it does get you down. I live in a large medical community also. I feel your pain.

Cathy,
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It was as if you took the words right out of my mouth, or if you read my mind. :eek: There is a demand for coders, and I live in a large city, but that doesn't guarantee a job--it was this way years ago, but not now. :mad: I wonder if it's this way for New Yorkers. Are there any New Yorkers out there? If so, please provide your input. We need to hear your experience.
 

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I know from personal experience with a couple of different employers, some will hire with no experience and some make no exceptions to this requirement. You just have to keep applying. A positive, confident attitude, for those with no experience, may be what it takes to be given that first chance. With time and perseverance you will eventually get your foot in the door. I wish you all the best of luck, hold your heads high and don't give up if this is what you really want!
 

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The exam is easy to pass if you use the AAPC study guides. My study group had 100% pass rate. My office currenly has an intern that took classes at a Junior college, her books are telling her different information than the AAPC study guides. She was taught one way and we all were taught another way that is supported by CMS, NCCI, CPT and ICD-9 guidelines. She thinks she is correct and won't conform, which makes her useless. Someone is always checking her work. If you want to pass a test given by the AAPC, you need to study AAPC information. Coders are hard to find. Many of our applicants past work experience is being a bartender, hair dresser, waitress. These are all great honest livings, however they do not have the medical back ground. If I were to give advice, I would say to become a Medical Assistant, Medical office worker of some kind, so you have that to show up on your past work experience. Volunteer at a hospital in medical records. Get exposure. There are thousands of coding jobs out there. There are thousands of coders that do not know what they are doing. Unfortunately, wrong coding coudl have punitive consequences for coders, and physicians. Huge Liability.

I passed the AAPC CPC exam the first try and I did not study AAPC info. I agree that that the co-worker you speak of needs to adhere to your company policies in order for her to learn compliance, become independant and no longer have her work monitored. However, I believe there is much more to knowing and implementing the ever-changing rules and guidelines, than studying information from a certain resource. Our success depends on how much effort we put forth into learning, and staying current with these policies and regulations. I think you are right, there are many coders who do not know what they are doing (I personally know a few), I am sure there are also some who have current jobs such as bartender, waitress, hair dresser, who would do a better job than some of the coders who currently hold that title. I do not agree that someone should not join the "coding force" just because they don't have a medical background. Didn't all of us start out with no medical background at some point? I understand how frustrating it can be to work with someone you don't see eye to eye with but I think everyone who has the heart and will to become a coder should be given a chance. With proper guidance, training, education, and time, some applicants with no experience may be excellent coders. Employers need to give people a chance, heavily monitor their work, weed out the bad and keep the good. My heart goes out to all of those who have posted their hardships, unable to land a coding job because they don't have any experience. Keep trying!!!
 

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I know from personal experience with a couple of different employers, some will hire with no experience and some make no exceptions to this requirement. You just have to keep applying. A positive, confident attitude, for those with no experience, may be what it takes to be given that first chance. With time and perseverance you will eventually get your foot in the door. I wish you all the best of luck, hold your heads high and don't give up if this is what you really want!

Do we have to be certified? :confused: Where are they located?;)
 

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I sent my resume to every organization listed for this city, and I haven't heard from anyone. Also, I read the same complaint from another member who lives here. This is quite discouraging and sad.
Sonjagirl,
Click on the following link
http://www.aapc.com/education/project-xtern-locate.aspx
and search for a project around your city and state.
Not all the time you will get paid, but, at least, you will gain the experience.
And most of the time, if the employer likes you, they will hire you.
Just be confident, have a positive attitute and work hard.
Hope, this was helpfull
 

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Sonjagirl,
Click on the following link
http://www.aapc.com/education/project-xtern-locate.aspx
and search for a project around your city and state.
Not all the time you will get paid, but, at least, you will gain the experience.
And most of the time, if the employer likes you, they will hire you.
Just be confident, have a positive attitute and work hard.
Hope, this was helpfull
Thanks, but the organizations that I sent my resume to were found in the Project X-tern arena. I'm thinking about volunteering in a big hospital as an administrative assistant to get my "foot in the door."
 
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About once every other month, I view this website called Biohealthmatics.com. It shows the medical coding jobs available in each state. The figures change but I don't know how often.

Things don't look bright throughout the United States, and California always have more coding jobs than the other states even though the figures are low like around 30.

Four years ago a classmate said to our teacher: “We don't see that many openings.” :mad: I agree because I didn't see many openings either. I'm wondering why do I see statements from the school's schedule of classes and websites saying that there is a demand for medical coders if this is the case? :confused:
 

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Thanks, but the organizations that I sent my resume to were found in the Project X-tern arena. I'm thinking about volunteering in a big hospital as an administrative assitant to get my "foot in the door."
Sonjagirl,
Why don't you call and speak to someone? Back then, I did and the first person who I spoke to was willing to accept me through project xtern.
Don't bother sending them your resume, just call them.
Take 1 or 2 days off, dress professionaly and walk in to hospitals, clinics asking for a coding job. It is not easy to find the first job.
I moved to NY 8 months ago from CA and was having difficulties finding a good, permanent job. Thank God, I did find my current job as a Clinical Coding Analyst. That's what I would do. I would walk into clinics and hospitals asking for a coding job.
There is a famous saying, if you look for someting, you will find.
Lilit
 

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Sonjagirl,
Why don't you call and speak to someone? Back then, I did and the first person who I spoke to was willing to accept me through project xtern.
Don't bother sending them your resume, just call them.
Take 1 or 2 days off, dress professionaly and walk in to hospitals, clinics asking for a coding job. It is not easy to find the first job.
I moved to NY 8 months ago from CA and was having difficulties finding a good, permanent job. Thank God, I did find my current job as a Clinical Coding Analyst. That's what I would do. I would walk into clinics and hospitals asking for a coding job.
There is a famous saying, if you look for someting, you will find.
Lilit
I have followed through by calling hospitals or medical centers that have advertised an opening for medical receptionist, administrative assistant, or medical records, etc. I'm not certified yet. I'm scheduled to take the exam next month. It's not as if I don't have any work experience at all. It's just that I don't have any significant experience in the medical field.

Also, I just found out from John of AAPC that the X-tern facilities were bombarded with a lot of applicants who aren't certified yet. Now according to AAPC's website, it did state that if we were scheduled to take the exam, then it would be okay to contact these X-tern facilities by e-mail or phone, submitting resumes, etc. However, the rules have changed.

Now I can't even log onto these X-tern facilities until after I'm certified. Well, that's okay. That's just one less step I have to deal with for now.

I would move to New York, but I don't have relatives there and my friends aren't dependable. They say one thing and do another. I cannot afford to stay in a hotel or get an apartment unless I get my sister to move down there with me. Her situation is a lot better than mine. Since I've been laid off, I've been working part time.

I'm just glad Los Angeles is behind New York as far as jobs are concerned. Chicago is after Los Angeles--New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago (in that order). Things could be worse for me. At least I'm surviving.

Thanks for your input.
 
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I have an Associate Degree in Medical Insurance Billing and coding. I have been on numerous of job interview. But I don't have enough experience for a job. I have been certified since 2006. I passed the CPC test before i graduated from college. I was advised that it was easy to get a job and there are plenty of opening in medical billing and coding. I had my externship about 4 months ago. After going through many different challenges. I called my teacher from the college and got the help to do my externship. The AAPC or my local chapter were dead ends for me also. I live in Orlando and there isn't a externship site for the AAPC here. You must move away from Orlando to get lucky. I even change my address to a Jacksonville address and No one answered me either. So I am going to pray for a change and hope for success.
I have been searching for a coding job for over 5 years. I have an associate's degree in MOT and I am now a CPC. I am still searching for a job. I have done externship with an AAPC accredited company. Still there are no jobs available in my state for those with no experience. What can we do as a community to change this. I spoke with the president in my local chapter. She speaks as if we can not change the way things are. I believe that we can if we all pull together and work hard for what we believe in. I want to know is there anyone else out there that is having this same issue. I know of several other people in my area. Someone please help me to change this. I am not going to give up. Though at times I do get a little discouraged about this. I am 30 year old single mother of three and in dyer need of a job with a lasting career in the medical coding field. I have many other talents but they are not a challenge to me only this medical field is my biggest challenge. So if you hear me, feel me and understand me help me please! We are counting on helping hands and those of you who are having this same issue. To push this through all states around the world to give people that do not have experience to give them the opportunity to gain experiene with varies companies besides just dong volunteer work which is a great thing. But after you have taking that step where do you go from there. I have been faxing my resume, posting my resume and building my resume. I am not looking for a hand out just a breakthrough. I will work hard for what I believe in and this is something that I will work hard for to change. I just need people on y side and to help shjow me the way. Thanks
Tanisha Saunders Atlanta, Georgia native. I can be contacted through email: ttsaunders1@bellsouth.net. DESPERATELY SEEKING FOR ANSWER:)
 
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Tips on helping to find entry level coding jobs

I am a fiver year certified coder now and I also did find it difficult at first to find my first job, maybe it was mostly luck, so not sure there but it has been straight up since then in pay and opportunities.

I recommend anyone trying to get started in coding to accept any related position in a medical office, the first choice being billing job, assuming you have some billing education. Billing will always help in your job as a coder and employers know this. Even a receptionist job can work into coding as long as you mention that is your goal. Also, if you can, consider relocating, which will really expand your options. Hope this helps, hang in there if this is what you want to do.

Debby H.
 
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Reply to your cry for help

[I understand what you are going through. Are you close to a military post. The only requirement is that you are certified. No expeience is necessary. You are trained on the job. Hope this helps. Keep doing what you are doing. :) Respectfully, Debera




QUOTE=ttsaunders1;8937]I have been searching for a coding job for over 5 years. I have an associate's degree in MOT and I am now a CPC. I am still searching for a job. I have done externship with an AAPC accredited company. Still there are no jobs available in my state for those with no experience. What can we do as a community to change this. I spoke with the president in my local chapter. She speaks as if we can not change the way things are. I believe that we can if we all pull together and work hard for what we believe in. I want to know is there anyone else out there that is having this same issue. I know of several other people in my area. Someone please help me to change this. I am not going to give up. Though at times I do get a little discouraged about this. I am 30 year old single mother of three and in dyer need of a job with a lasting career in the medical coding field. I have many other talents but they are not a challenge to me only this medical field is my biggest challenge. So if you hear me, feel me and understand me help me please! We are counting on helping hands and those of you who are having this same issue. To push this through all states around the world to give people that do not have experience to give them the opportunity to gain experiene with varies companies besides just dong volunteer work which is a great thing. But after you have taking that step where do you go from there. I have been faxing my resume, posting my resume and building my resume. I am not looking for a hand out just a breakthrough. I will work hard for what I believe in and this is something that I will work hard for to change. I just need people on y side and to help shjow me the way. Thanks
Tanisha Saunders Atlanta, Georgia native. I can be contacted through email: ttsaunders1@bellsouth.net. DESPERATELY SEEKING FOR ANSWER:)[/QUOTE]
 

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debera,

Your information is not entirely correct. I worked as a contract coder at a military treatment facility and for our position we had to have three years experience along with certification. Some military coding may not require experience, but it is not across the board.

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I am also going through the same thing here in Los Angeles, California. I have been certified for almost a year now, yet I have an A on my license for Apprentice. No company wants to hire me without the work experience, nor allow me to volunteer to gain experience. I have no idea what to do, but I am not going to give up. This is what I went to school for, and this is what I want my career to be.:confused:
 

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My main suggestion to all of you who have not been able to find coding positions is to network, network, network. I am all sure that most of you have heard "it is not what you know, but who you know." I know someone who works at a facility in Georgia in the coding department. She told me that if I ever move to Georgia, that she would help me get into her company. I am already in the HIM field,and just recently got my cpc; but I wholeheartedly believe that one of the best avenues to landing your first job is getting to know, and talking to as many people that you can: people at the chapter meetings, former instructers, etc. Also, another excellent way to land a coding positions is getting your foot in the door at any heathcare facility whether working as a receptionist, clerk, etc. and working your way into a coding position that way--Alot of places hire from within first. My coding position came about when my facility had an opening for coders under the upward mobility program where, after hire, you are formally trained; but this job was posted only for in-house employees. So, give it try!!:)
 

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debera,

Your information is not entirely correct. I worked as a contract coder at a military treatment facility and for our position we had to have three years experience along with certification. Some military coding may not require experience, but it is not across the board.

Machelle
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Debera,

I have to agree with Machelle. I worked as a contract coder and auditor at a MTF and we had to have at least 2 years experience along with the CPC certification. I would be interested to know what base and branch of the military you are talking about. It's a bit more difficult to get in with the military and they have their own guidelines for you to follow.
 

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military coding

I think she is talking about coding for the goverment, not contract work. They only require a certification, it is up to the supervisor to determine if experience it requried or not. I used to hold a GS (government service) coding position in the military when it switched over from a contract. Our boss hired billers who had thier certification. Military coding is totally different from civilian, so it's takes a while to "switch gears" as it were. If you go to usajobs.gov you can do a job search. The pay is really good.
 

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Military coding is the same where I worked, and for the MTFs in the area, for contract or GS. Also, some MTF only have contract coders. You still have to have experience. It may vary from each individual MTF. I have a friend that is head of a large MTF coding program and her staff needs experience also. I think those people saying go to a MTF, you dont need experience...
are giving false hope to people. Yes, I hope they can find something too, but I dont think military coding is an "across the board" answer for those with no experience.

Machelle
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