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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordrakeramoray View Post
    Iím by no means implying any shady or corrupt behavior. Iím saying that there seems to be an abundance of insecurity and/or incompetence amongst coding supervisors, or at the very least there is a major systemic issue with the hiring process. There are people who need someoneís list of accomplishments spelled out in front of them because theyíre not capable of accurately judging a personís intelligence, skill set, or potential via face to face interaction. People who are too myopic to take a chance on a newly certified candidate because they donít have experience and assume that theyíre not capable of doing the job. People who only consider where a person is now as opposed to what their potential ceiling is as a coder. People who are intimidated by younger people who are smarter than them and who could potentially outwork them.

    Between the distance learning, books, CEUís, and renewing my membership, Iíve put well over $1000 of my own money into this field, and nearly three years later my return on that investment is literally $0. I have worked in several different facets of Rev Cycle for almost 5 years. Iíve received two promotions in the past 3 years and am hopeful to get a third in the next few months. All three of my current supervisors are willing to be references for me. I have applied for coding positions in Baltimore, Philadelphia, Las Vegas, and Portland among others (big appeal of pursuing coding was being able to work anywhere). I canít recall seeing a job posting that didnít contain ďminimum two years coding experienceĒ.

    Finding an entry level position should NOT be this futile of an endeavor for me and people like me. Period. Especially considering the garbage I have been fed during interviews about how much room for growth there is in the coding industry and how there will be an increase in jobs over the next several years. It seems fairly evident that new coders, especially young ones, are not wanted.
    A $1000 is nothing, lol. Most students put in over 100k for a 4 year college degree and still can't get hired because of their lack of experience. That's why it is so important to network and start working towards experience while you're still in school.
    Devin Major, CPC
    HCA Healthcare
    Remote Cardiovascular Coder II
    Houston, Texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by devinmajor14 View Post
    A $1000 is nothing, lol. Most students put in over 100k for a 4 year college degree and still can't get hired because of their lack of experience. That's why it is so important to network and start working towards experience while you're still in school.
    If by networking you mean taking an internship and working for free, no thanks. Donít work for free under any circumstance, ever.

    $1000 directly out of pocket is a lot, yes. Iím also 30k in debt from school, but if thatís such chump change as you say, Iíd really appreciate if youíd clear that debt for me. No big deal, right?

    Seems like youíre one of the middle aged coders who are intimidated by people who are younger and smarter than you. Instead of dealing with the reality that itís impossible to get hired without experience, maybe hiring managers should deservedly shoulder some blame and consider that their methods of judging and acquiring talent are short-sighted and severely flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordrakeramoray View Post
    If by networking you mean taking an internship and working for free, no thanks. Donít work for free under any circumstance, ever.

    $1000 directly out of pocket is a lot, yes. Iím also 30k in debt from school, but if thatís such chump change as you say, Iíd really appreciate if youíd clear that debt for me. No big deal, right?

    Seems like youíre one of the middle aged coders who are intimidated by people who are younger and smarter than you. Instead of dealing with the reality that itís impossible to get hired without experience, maybe hiring managers should deservedly shoulder some blame and consider that their methods of judging and acquiring talent are short-sighted and severely flawed.
    Networking is going to your chapter meeting to meet other coders... I am not middle aged, I am 31 years old that did whatever it took to land my first coding job at 23 instead of complaining about it online. No one wants to hire someone with such attitude.
    Devin Major, CPC
    HCA Healthcare
    Remote Cardiovascular Coder II
    Houston, Texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordrakeramoray View Post
    If by networking you mean taking an internship and working for free, no thanks. Donít work for free under any circumstance, ever.

    $1000 directly out of pocket is a lot, yes. Iím also 30k in debt from school, but if thatís such chump change as you say, Iíd really appreciate if youíd clear that debt for me. No big deal, right?

    Seems like youíre one of the middle aged coders who are intimidated by people who are younger and smarter than you. Instead of dealing with the reality that itís impossible to get hired without experience, maybe hiring managers should deservedly shoulder some blame and consider that their methods of judging and acquiring talent are short-sighted and severely flawed.
    Clearly it is not impossible to be hired without experience. I was hired 3 weeks after finishing Practicode (thus the removal of my A status).

    I was about $3000.00 into the process. Just over $2500.00 for the course, test and practicode. A CPT blitz, $170.00, from CCO to make sure I was ready for the test. $230.00 for an E/M course that I have not quite finished yet. The course review, CCO blitz and E/M course all fulfilled my CEUs hours, so well worth it to me to show both dedication to the profession and to fulfill my CEUs.

  5. Lightbulb Sorry to hear about your struggles with coding jobs! Call me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctordrakeramoray View Post
    If by networking you mean taking an internship and working for free, no thanks. Donít work for free under any circumstance, ever.

    $1000 directly out of pocket is a lot, yes. Iím also 30k in debt from school, but if thatís such chump change as you say, Iíd really appreciate if youíd clear that debt for me. No big deal, right?

    Seems like youíre one of the middle aged coders who are intimidated by people who are younger and smarter than you. Instead of dealing with the reality that itís impossible to get hired without experience, maybe hiring managers should deservedly shoulder some blame and consider that their methods of judging and acquiring talent are short-sighted and severely flawed.

    Frankly, as a hiring manager who has this year alone brought on four CPC-As, I'm very happy to have found both talented and bright (young) new coders. Their newness in the field is an advantage when I'm looking to train individuals who are eager to learn and who want a chance to work.

    However, none of them have shown the attitude that you are displaying here on a public forum. Enough said.
    Pam Brooks, MHA, COC, PCS, CPC, AAPC Fellow
    Coding Manager
    Wentworth-Douglass Hospital
    Dover, NH 03820

    If you can dream it, you can do it. Walt Disney

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Brooks View Post
    Frankly, as a hiring manager who has this year alone brought on four CPC-As, I'm very happy to have found both talented and bright (young) new coders. Their newness in the field is an advantage when I'm looking to train individuals who are eager to learn and who want a chance to work.

    However, none of them have shown the attitude that you are displaying here on a public forum. Enough said.
    People do not give enough thought to their internet interactions when it comes to obtaining employment. I imagine quite a few employers check internet profiles/social profiles when it comes to hiring perspectives employees now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Brooks View Post
    Frankly, as a hiring manager who has this year alone brought on four CPC-As, I'm very happy to have found both talented and bright (young) new coders. Their newness in the field is an advantage when I'm looking to train individuals who are eager to learn and who want a chance to work.

    However, none of them have shown the attitude that you are displaying here on a public forum. Enough said.
    I think the OP was lashing out because she was being attacked and told her education wasn't expensive enough. Not excusing it, but it's not hard to see why she did it.

    That being said, if you have experience in Rev Cycle and have worked with coding in that experience, you CAN get 2 letters of recommendation that speak to your skills/experience to waive the -A designation. This is what happened with me, as I had no true "coding" experience per se, but I had done enough with it that I was able to get recommendations and AAPC accepted them. It's worth a shot.

    Either way...keep your chin up. Tomorrow's a brand new day.

  10. Lightbulb Itís Just Like Nursing
    This has me thinking of the ďnursing shortageĒ. Itís the dirty secret of nursing. Thereís no shortages. Itís pretty much a scheme, thereís a shortfall of experienced nurses because the large volume of nursing jobs expect at least 2 years experience. But, at least in nursing thereís a way to get experience in order to move on to the hospital jobs. Itís long term care or nursing home positions. And believe me, if youíre dedicated this job will prove it. Oh I have been a nurse for 26 years now. Thatís how I know this about the false shortage.

    I see no entry level jobs available, no matter how hard or stressful it can be. Itís been weeks of searching multiple sites. And no calls over multiple resumes. And ďhanging in thereĒ doesnít pay the bills or give you a return on the investment in your education. Coding needs to find itís entry level positions or in a few years thereís going to be an epic crisis thatís no ones fault but the management of today. No one is above being a beginner.

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