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ICD-10 if you don't pass the exam will you lose the Certifcation??

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    I have been appalled at the AAPC's decision to require us to take a test to maintain our credentials and have written Terry Leone (with no response). Today I decided to email Reed Pew to see if he would be able to respond to my email. I have not heard of a credentialing body that threatens to take away your certification for failing to receive updated information (ICD-10). Isn't this the reason we are required to maintian CEU's each year. My suggestion is to make attending ICD-10 seminars a requirement for CEU's each year...not to pass a $60 test that could cost us our licensure and loss of AAPC members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashleynapier View Post
    I will be extremely pissed off if I lose my certification by not passing this new ICD-10 thing. I busted my butt, and paid entirely too much money, to pass the exam and earn the certificate I have now. I just paid another $120 to keep my certification up to date, and I can't even use it. I refuse to give this organization any more money when the certificate has proved useless for so many of us.

    Yes I can see how you feel I too spent alot of money on this class and regret not taking the cpc class through the aapc instead i took throgh a distance learning and didnt get much bang for my buck I got a diploma I finished the class but I still had to spend for practice tests and you know study guides any way i just took my cpc exam and if i dont pass the test the second time because i dont feel i did very well this first one I will have to pay my employer back what they paid for me to take the test and the one yr membership as well.. I am determined to pass and this is my career goal so I will not give up. I will be the only certified coder in our billing dept of 4
    Its not needed for me to keep my current job but later on down the road I know it will come in useful So keep your chin up and check all the doc offices in your area because I dont think all have to be certified to do actual coding work My job in billing is multitasking along with coding we are 4 people (who could use a 5th ) doing everything checking invoices for coding errors posting insurance payments helping patients with their bills sending claims to clearing house appeals insurance ar enter hosp charges for half of the docs.. and maybe because of all that software that is out there that does the coding for the doctor But the claims still need to be checked before they are sent All I am saying is that working in a doc office is more then coding and there might be an office out there looking for someone who is willing to learn and you are certified so that is a plus good luck to you and if you want to email me you can cuetweety38@yahoo.com
    also insurance companies im told will hire coders for auditing and claims resolution specialist for UHC and Aetna I know for a fact they hire to work at home too so good luck to you Tracey
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    We, as coders, hold a higher standard than anyone else. Yes, we pay a lot of money for our certification. Nothing worthwhile is free. We have a standard of ethics that must be maintained and another test is required to prove to those that rely on our knowledge to keep our billing practices compliant. We are only going to become more valuable as the new EMR requirements from the government, the RAC and the ICD-10 is implemented. The AAPC has twice as many members as AHIMA does, that says that the AAPC holds the standard. If we are to maintain any credibility and maintain our continued progression to gain acceptance within the medical community our standards must reflect this.

    Yes, I don't really want to take another test. But I also do not want to sit next to someone anywhere, anytime that does not know how to use the new ICD-10. It will reflect on us as a national group when someone does not know what they are doing. So with that all said, it is imperitive that we all take a ceritfication test to become ICD-10 certified.

    It will be open book, it will be a challenge, but it won't be impossible if you know what you are doing and they is the key. We all must know what we are doing and be able to prove it. One bad egg makes it more difficult to get the respect we need to do our jobs properly.

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    With respect to other posters comments, I personally think testing proficiency in ICD-10 is a good thing. The cost is no more really than your CEUs may cost. I love a challenge and learning new things. I have been learing about ICD-10 for several years, both the diagnosis coding, and the procedures. There are lots of resources out there, including AAPC, of which many are free or low cost. I think ICD-10, like most other things, can be what you make of it. If you are interested in learning about it, you may find it easier to learn; if you don't want it and find it "just another burden" than most likely it will be harder for you to grasp. Make the best of it!

    PS, Who knows, if you complete the ICD-10 proficiency early, it may give you a leg up on someone else who hasn't tested yet.
    Machelle Morningstar, CPC, COC, CEMC, COSC
    AHIMA Approved ICD-10-CM/PCS Trainer

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    Since we have a 2 year period to pass why can't we take the test more than twice if need be in that 2 year period? And...........if we don't pass and loose our certification we have to start all over??? I for one have only coded for 20 years within one specialty. Why would I want to study again and test on all the sections which I have never used!

    Mary,CPC

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    yes, $60 enables you to take twice. Another $60 will enable another two test. I genuinely hope no one has to pitch in another $60. Its online, unproctored and open book. With reasonable preparation, this will be very passable.

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    I don't understand what all the hype is all about ICD-10. I want to take the test. Why wouldn't you?

    As coders, we are the go-to, the ones who know some pretty important stuff. Think about it, if coders/billers DID NOT exist, would your practice fail? Yes, it would. Each and everyone of you has a very important role. So remember that. Important roles have important duties,#1: maintaining your CPC and other credentials. Maintaining your credentials, means abiding by the organizations requirements. Think of it as your driver's license. Every 10 years or whatever you have to retake the test, if you don't, they take away your license. Well, now the same goes for ICD-10. ICD-10 is a massive change, as well as a headache, but we are in this business because we love what we do. If you don't, then you don't belong here. Do you think your physicians would be happy when ICD-10 takes place, and you don't know what you are doing? Nope probably not. Taking this test is not about just the credential holder...it affects your doctors, your patients, the rest of the staff, and pretty importantly, your revenue.

    There are costs and fees associated with everything you do in life. I think the AAPC's costs are reasonable and competitive. Some of our employers pay for our CEU's and membership fees, for which we are thankful for. For those employers that don't, have you ever asked? Make a deal, ask them to pay half of all expenses. Bargain with them. If your employer requires the CPC, make them pay for the CEU's.

    Just my opinion.

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    I tried to take a course for the ICD 10 and was told by my director that I didn't need to have it as there will be many changes before it takes place. My hospital used to pay for all my training and license but now they don't pay for anything. I comes out of my pocket.
    Karen Barron, CPC
    Hampton New Hampshire Chapter

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARCPC9491 View Post
    I don't understand what all the hype is all about ICD-10. I want to take the test. Why wouldn't you?

    As coders, we are the go-to, the ones who know some pretty important stuff. Think about it, if coders/billers DID NOT exist, would your practice fail? Yes, it would. Each and everyone of you has a very important role. So remember that. Important roles have important duties,#1: maintaining your CPC and other credentials. Maintaining your credentials, means abiding by the organizations requirements. Think of it as your driver's license. Every 10 years or whatever you have to retake the test, if you don't, they take away your license. Well, now the same goes for ICD-10. ICD-10 is a massive change, as well as a headache, but we are in this business because we love what we do. If you don't, then you don't belong here. Do you think your physicians would be happy when ICD-10 takes place, and you don't know what you are doing? Nope probably not. Taking this test is not about just the credential holder...it affects your doctors, your patients, the rest of the staff, and pretty importantly, your revenue.

    There are costs and fees associated with everything you do in life. I think the AAPC's costs are reasonable and competitive. Some of our employers pay for our CEU's and membership fees, for which we are thankful for. For those employers that don't, have you ever asked? Make a deal, ask them to pay half of all expenses. Bargain with them. If your employer requires the CPC, make them pay for the CEU's.

    Just my opinion.
    ABSOLUTELY! DITTO! You said it all. thank you!

    Debra A. Mitchell, MSPH, CPC-H

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    I have never heard of having to re-take your drivers exam to maintain your license. Is that a state-specific requirement?

    I hold 3 credentials total and have never had to re-take a test to maintain my status. If there is an update to any procedure, we are required to attend seminars and submit those with our CEU's. For those that "want" to take the test, you are an anomaly, but if you like test, I have some college coursework testing that I can send you to do. LOL.

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