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    Default Urodynamics - I am new to Urology

    I am new to Urology and have a question regarding the 2010 changes in Urodynamics codes.

    Specifically, we purchased a Urocuff CT3000 late last year which uses a penile cuff to measure voiding pressure. We were using cpt code 51795 to report this test.

    51795 has been deleted for 2010. Our friendly sales rep says that the new codes render our new 10k machine without a corresponding CPT code unless we purchase additional equipment to perform EEG along with it.

    My question: It appears that 51728 describes the test previously represented by 51795 only includes complex cystometrogram. What exactly defines complex cystometrogram? Are transurethral catheters required to be considered complex?

    Any guidance you can give would be most appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Lori

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    Default Doing 51726?

    My first question is do you currently bill for 51726? Notice in 2009 51726 does not have any codes below indented yet the three new codes under it - 51727, 51728, and 51729 are indented below 51726 (making 51726 the integral procedure to the 51727, 51728, or 51729). So, if you were currently performing and billing a 51726 then you should have no problem performing the 51728 ( you just would bill 51728 vs. 51726).

    Not sure if this helped, but maybe.

    Hunter Smith, CPC

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    hope this helps!

    Knowing the differences between the tests is your key to proper code choice.

    When your urologist says he performed urodynamics tests, you need to dig deeper into his documentation for clues about which code to report. Tack this overview up by your computer to help you quickly choose the right code every time.



    • In a simple CMG (51725, Simple cystometrogram [e.g., spinal manometer]), the urologist places a small catheter in the bladder, fills the bladder by gravity, and measures capacity and storage pressures using a spinal manometer.



    • A complex CMG (51726, Complex cystometrogram [e.g., calibrated electronic equipment]) involves filling the bladder through a catheter and measuring the pressures with calibrated electronic equipment. If your urologist also performs a urethral pressure profile (UPP), report 51727 (Complex cystometrogram [i.e., calibrated electronic equipment]; with urethral pressure profile studies [i.e., urethral closure pressure profile], any technique). For a complex CMG with voiding pressure study, report 51728 (… with voiding pressure studies [i.e., bladder voiding pressure], any technique).



    For a complex CMG with voiding pressure study and UPP, use 51729 (… with voiding pressure studies [i.e., bladder voiding pressure] and urethral pressure profile studies [ie, urethral closure pressure profile], any technique).



    • During a simple UFR (51736, Simple uroflowmetry [e.g., stopwatch flow rate, mechanical uroflowmeter]), the urologist visually observes the urine flow, sometimes using a stopwatch to gauge and measure the flow.



    • A complex UFR (51741, Complex uroflowmetry [e.g., calibrated electronic equipment]) makes use of special electronic equipment to measure the urine flow.



    • EMG studies (51784, Electromyography studies of anal or urethral sphincter, other than needle, any technique), in which the urologist places skin patch electrodes on the perineum to measure electrical and muscular activity of the perineal muscles and urinary sphincter.



    • A needle EMG (51785, Needle electromyography studies of anal or urethral sphincter, any technique) involves placing needles into the pelvic floor to measure muscle activity during bladder filling and at rest. Few urologists use needle electromyography these days.



    • Stimulus evoked response (51792, Stimulus evoked response [e.g., measurement of bulbocavernosus reflex latency time]) involves stimulating the sacral arch via the glans or clitoris and measuring motor activity in the pelvic floor or urethral sphincter. Urologists rarely perform this test.



    • VP studies (+51797, Voiding pressure studies, intra-abdominal [i.e., rectal, gastric, intraperitoneal] [List separately in addition to code for primary procedure]) measure specific pressures during voiding. This is an add-on code that cannot be independently billed. You can bill this with 51728 or 51729.



    • Valsalva (abdominal) leak point pressure: The urologist asks the patient to bear down forcefully (Valsalva maneuver) while he observes the abdominal pressure at which leakage occurs from the bladder at the urethral meatus (around the urethral catheter) when the bladder has been filled with a minimum of 150 cc of fluid. The bladder pressure at leakage is called the leak point pressure. This is now included in 51727 and 51729

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    Default 51797

    Our urodynamics physician states she found on the AGUS website that add on code 51797 could also be coded if done vaginally but I cannot find any supporting information about that? Does anyone know if there is documentation to support that?
    Thanks!

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    Did you find an answer to this question?

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