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  1. Smile any one in the Los Angeles area?
    Medical Coding Books
    Possible need of coders for traing in HCC coding and compliance. Re vamping the department.
    Email me @ dkittykats@gmail.com if you are interested... will consider CPC-A also

  2. Smile I share the frustration
    I am having the same difficulty as all of you. I have an IT background prior to my billing/coding education. I am CPC-A certified. My local chapter tells me to try and get a clerical position so I can get my foot in the door and that's what I am currently searching for. Even those positions require prior experience. I wish the schools would change their advertisements about help with job placements after completion of the programs. I have friends with the same difficulty we face. One of them is working a security job to have an income. I wish I knew how we could change this situation to persuade employers to give us 'new' coders the experience we deserve.

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    Default Volunteering, only option for experience.. for me
    I have been volunteering at Trinity Mother Frances Hosp and Business Services. I want to show them that I have the ability, ethics, skills in hopes of getting my foot in the door. For me, I feel that is the only option for me at this time. But at the same time, it has been very rewarding to help out in any way I can. I have also attempting to seek out volunteering opportunities in the coding/billing departments there at the hospital. I hope my hard work while volunteering (yes, I am a hard-worker, I can't help it, it's second nature to me) will not be in vain.

    What do you all think?

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    Although I really hope none of you are still facing this problem for another whole month, I wanted to mention this (mostly because I'm excited about it!):

    I wrote an article for Coding Edge discussing this topic...it'll be in April's edition!

    In the mean time, there are a lot of threads that have hashed and re-hashed this, so look through them...you may find what you need. Good luck to everyone!

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    I love reading your posts Looking forward to your article. GOOD JOB!

  6. Smile I understand, as well.
    Trying to find a job without required experience is frustrating at best. I know. I am a CPC-A, hold a Bachelor of Science in Management and Masters in Human Resource Management and still can't find employment opportunities. Where I live, the health care professionals do not deem credentials or education, other than their own, as value-added assets to their practice. The hospitals in my area are the only ones who REQUIRE CPC designations. Nonetheless, I continue to apply and keep a positive attitude. Some avenues I have explored - law offices employ coders to review medical records; entry level positions such as medical records, patient registration, collections all give you a foot-in-the door; volunteering at local hospitals; cold submissions from local Yellow Pages; networking at local chapter meetings, as well as, e-mailing or visiting other local chapters and putting your face and name out. I wish the best for you and know, with persistence, something will fall in your lap.

  7. Post Will it ever change for entry Level Medical Billers/Coders?
    I have been chasing the proverbial job of anything entry level. I live in the state of Michigan. It is more than difficult to land an entry level position here. As many others have stated it really is difficult and frustrating to want to help and know that you have the skills, desire, and wherewithal to be an asset to anyone that will hire you. But because we do not have a certification, or minimum work experience we are not interviewed, called, or allowed to "show what we got".

    What I really get mad about is, I co submit a resume and cover letter and tailor it to the specific job, and will get an interview. Will receive accolades, praise throughout the entire interview, and still will not be chosen. A week or two later I receive that generic letter, or email. ..."Although your skills and credentials are impressive, we decided to go with another 'more qualified candidate'. Then to my horror, either a week or more later - I look out on the web, and the identical exact position has been listed again.

    At this point I am thinking, "see if you would have hired me, you would not be spending more money, and time looking for someone else."

    Just wanted to vent.

    I due have 30 + years of customer service, and I can learn any software program that is out there. Haven't tackled one I have not mastered. But how do you transfer that to an employer. My perspective: No matter where you work, the principles are the same. As long as we know the methodologies everything else can be learned. What happened to each one teach one. Hospitals, Physician Offices, Long Term Care facilities, and Insurance Companies are looking for billers and coders. Why can't someone take those of us that are will to start at the bottom, and work hard to learn because we have a deep desire to learn, we have a dynamic work ethic. Why can't we find entry-level paying positions to help with all of the follow-up that all companies need help with before that statue of limitations runs out on submission of stale dated claims?

    Myself, I LOVE doing claims-follow-up. Research, research, research, is my middle name.

    If anyone knows of someone that needs this kind of dedication and ability; contact me at: croomsc2008@yahoo.com. In Michigan, or remote.

    Thanks for this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCrooms View Post
    I have been chasing the proverbial job of anything entry level. I live in the state of Michigan. It is more than difficult to land an entry level position here. As many others have stated it really is difficult and frustrating to want to help and know that you have the skills, desire, and wherewithal to be an asset to anyone that will hire you. But because we do not have a certification, or minimum work experience we are not interviewed, called, or allowed to "show what we got".

    What I really get mad about is, I co submit a resume and cover letter and tailor it to the specific job, and will get an interview. Will receive accolades, praise throughout the entire interview, and still will not be chosen. A week or two later I receive that generic letter, or email. ..."Although your skills and credentials are impressive, we decided to go with another 'more qualified candidate'. Then to my horror, either a week or more later - I look out on the web, and the identical exact position has been listed again.

    At this point I am thinking, "see if you would have hired me, you would not be spending more money, and time looking for someone else."

    Just wanted to vent.

    I due have 30 + years of customer service, and I can learn any software program that is out there. Haven't tackled one I have not mastered. But how do you transfer that to an employer. My perspective: No matter where you work, the principles are the same. As long as we know the methodologies everything else can be learned. What happened to each one teach one. Hospitals, Physician Offices, Long Term Care facilities, and Insurance Companies are looking for billers and coders. Why can't someone take those of us that are will to start at the bottom, and work hard to learn because we have a deep desire to learn, we have a dynamic work ethic. Why can't we find entry-level paying positions to help with all of the follow-up that all companies need help with before that statue of limitations runs out on submission of stale dated claims?

    Myself, I LOVE doing claims-follow-up. Research, research, research, is my middle name.

    If anyone knows of someone that needs this kind of dedication and ability; contact me at: croomsc2008@yahoo.com. In Michigan, or remote.

    Thanks for this forum.

    I, too, have had the same experience. I will not be chosen because someone else has been hired who is more qualified than I am. I'm sorry it's happening to you and a lot of others as well.

    I thought volunteering in a similar department of a job I wanted: coding, of course. But now I realized that (when and if a job opens up) I will need to look at other types of medical office jobs where I am confident that I am qualified, although I might be considered "overqualified". I need help in this too.

    While working at a "survivor-paid" job even though it is not related to medical office, I am still looking for work. But I feel that because it's December, there's not many jobs in my field.

  9. Default Experience is the "key word"
    I agree 100% that more should be done to help those who are searching for "experience", to obtain employment in a field they so desire, and have worked very hard to achieve, and wether or not they are fully certified. I too, am a CPC-A. I was on these forums a while back voicing my concern about this issue, and I still feel that something has to be done to provide the experience needed. Don't get me wrong, I totally beleive in working very hard to get what you want in life, and I don't expect it to be handed to me otherwise. I just think that there are many schools/organiztions that offer the Coding Certification, and even though they do offer great courses, they do not offer a way to gain the experience that is needed in "real life". I also understand that there are not as many jobs available, as there are many people looking for them. But I think that is the problem, there needs to be some other level of training available to obtain the total "experience" needed. Like an internship/externship, or some type of apprentice level training. As of now, I do not know of any such programs being offered. There was an opportunity recently, with The Online Apprentice Removal Program offered through AAPC. I myself, actually purchased the program when it first came out, almost 2 years ago. Unfortunately, after some discussion at the AAPC, it was decided that the program was not able to meet the needs of it's members, and it now has been discontinued. I was also a beta tester in hopes of trying to aid in helping the AAPC make this program a go, but it did not happen. I am not entirely sure what the issues were, but needless to to say, I don't understand why there can't be some way of offering a program that further helps gain the kind of experience that is acceptable, and obviously needed.

    This being said, I have been fortunate to find a job in a medical office where the administrator has been gracious enough to help me with my "apprentice" status, by giving me the doc's op notes to code for practice. I am very gratefull for this experience, and I hope at some point I will find that coding job I am working so hard to obtain. So in the mean time, that is what I will do. But I am really hoping that the AAPC will reconsider the options that are ,and are not, availible to it's members in reguard to this issue. Good luck to all of you, and you absolutely have my support.

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    While I admire the positive attitude of your answer and agree with you in theory, the fact is if you have no experience, you almost never get to speak to anyone about your potentials, work ethic or academic achievements. Applications are almost always required to be submitted electronically and in fact I have been asked to NOT send resumes through the mail or "pop in to meet with the HR people". Inexperienced, yet certified coders send applications and resumes into the electronic void without ever knowing if they are read or filtered out by software programmed to weed out applicants without three to five years experience in the field.

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