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No Coding Jobs for inexperienced Coders

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    Medical Coding Books
    I agree Machelle!
    ~Amy, CPC, CPMA, CEMC~

  2. Default No Coding Jobs for inexperienced Coders
    Quote Originally Posted by ttsaunders1 View Post
    I have been searching for a coding job for over 5 years. I have an associate's degree in MOT and I am now a CPC. I am still searching for a job. I have done externship with an AAPC accredited company. Still there are no jobs available in my state for those with no experience. What can we do as a community to change this. I spoke with the president in my local chapter. She speaks as if we can not change the way things are. I believe that we can if we all pull together and work hard for what we believe in. I want to know is there anyone else out there that is having this same issue. I know of several other people in my area. Someone please help me to change this. I am not going to give up. Though at times I do get a little discouraged about this. I am 30 year old single mother of three and in dyer need of a job with a lasting career in the medical coding field. I have many other talents but they are not a challenge to me only this medical field is my biggest challenge. So if you hear me, feel me and understand me help me please! We are counting on helping hands and those of you who are having this same issue. To push this through all states around the world to give people that do not have experience to give them the opportunity to gain experiene with varies companies besides just dong volunteer work which is a great thing. But after you have taking that step where do you go from there. I have been faxing my resume, posting my resume and building my resume. I am not looking for a hand out just a breakthrough. I will work hard for what I believe in and this is something that I will work hard for to change. I just need people on y side and to help shjow me the way. Thanks
    Tanisha Saunders Atlanta, Georgia native. I can be contacted through email: DESPERATELY SEEKING FOR ANSWER
    I know exactly how you feel about not being able to get a coding job. Since I have finished school at North Georgia Technical College in Clarkesville, GA in March of this year taking coding classes it's been very hard for me to find a job as well. I know I haven't been looking as long as you have, but it is still frustrating. I have applied at many places which have turned me down each time due to no experience. I don't understand how you can get experience in the medical field if no one will hire you and give you a chance. I to have talked with someone in my local chapter with not much sucess. I have been getting my resume out there as much as possible which can only help you. Whatever you do don't give up on your dream to do coding someday. A lot of times knowing someone already in the field can help you get in. If you know someone like that ask them to please help you it can't hurt to try. Most of all just trust God to help you. I know he will not let you down.

    Alan Gunn, Demorest, GA
    Last edited by; 10-29-2008 at 11:54 AM.

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    I agree with networking to help find a position in coding. I have a friend who is a coder and works for a general surgery office. She helped me to study and be able to obtain my CPC-A. When a position opened up in the office, she recommended me to the manager, as I just found out that I passed the exam. So it really is about who you know. I am so thankful to my friend for recommending me to her manager, so that I may gain valuable experience with surgical coding. Keep trying. I hope that you are able to find someone who will be willing to train a newbie.

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    First of all supply and demand is driving this problem. The market is flooded with coders. That is the bad news for new coders and us experienced coders as well. Having given you the bad news...let me offer some tips for standing out to coding employers. (I have actually been involved in the hiring process for many coders)

    1. Become an expert on something. Here are some areas where expertise will pay off for you:
    E/M coding - learn all there is to know about the 1995 and 1997 E/M guidelines. Look for AAPC workshops in your area where chart auditing and documentation guidleines are being taught. It is money well spent. Then put in your cover letter that you have this skill and be willing and ready to prove it with their company coding test.
    Specialty Coding - find a specialty you love and learn all you can about it. Go on the forums here and read the coding questions that are posted and try to see if you can answer them. You don't have to reply to the forum..just see if you get the same answer that your coding counterparts get. If not then be prepared to ask questions. There are also specialty conferences that you can go to. Keep all of the certificates showing the classes you have attended and put that info on your resume! Once again...if you do get proficient be bold about being willing to take a test to prove it.

    I am going to stop here and talk about testing....guys I know you think that once you take the CPC you are done being tested...but that test was just the beginning. Being a coder means that your knowledge will be test every single day. When you get into the field you will be surrounded by other people who will test your skills...physicians will question you ...other coders will go behind you...there will probably be a compliance department that will oversee your work. It is the nature of our business and it is healthy so get used to it now.

    Learn all you can about upcoming changes in coding. You can get a barometer of this from the Coding Edge. If they bring it up you need to dig into it! If you can talk about ICD10 and CMS regulations like a pro you can ace an interview! Know your business!

    And network! Go to your local chapter meetings. Don't go there and complain about not having a job. Go and shake hands and get business cards and make a good impression.

    Don't be afraid to offer yourself as a temporary coder if you can do that. Offices are forever being short staffed due to maternity leave, and such. You could be a fill in coder. Getting valuable experience and hopefully noticed too!

    Lastly...when you get your foot in the door for the interview...don't blow it. Neat hair, neat nails, modest make up, simple jewelry, wear a suit (preferrably navy, black or gray), bring a copy of your resume, be ready to be tested, make eye contact, give a good handshake.

    Now go out there and get them!

  5. #55
    Woodland Hills (Los Angeles), California
    I was told by several sources that there is a demand for coders. That's why I decided to study medical insurance billing for 2-1/2 years; but I guess with the economy being bad all over the world, everyone is being affected regardless. I desperately need a coding job.

    Also, Adwood68 thanks for your encouragement. I really appreciate it. I can tell you were speaking from your heart, and you have a wealth of knowledge and experience "under your belt."
    Last edited by Sonjagirl; 11-03-2008 at 11:30 PM.

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    Default Non Medical Consultants
    Has anyone tried to get in with a consulting company that is not, on the surface, a medical consulting company? I'm talking mainly about some of the bigger Public Accounting Firms. Ernst & Young, PriceWaterhouse Coopers, Crowe Chizek, and Plante & Moran all have regional offices and all have some version of a medical/healthcare team. I used to work for one of these big companies and they thrive on people eager to work and already have certifications. Training is done on the job and they give plenty of resources for you to use to be as successful as you want.

    Sonjagirl, I know for a fact that all the big Accounting/Consulting firms are very active in LA. You should try there. And don't be discouraged if there's no opportunities on their websites. Call the executive listed and talk with them directly. That's how I got my job.

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    St.Petersburg, Fl
    Default coding jobs with public health
    Hi to all you frustrated new coders,
    I know that there are places that will hire an inexperienced coder but the first place and one of the best places to start is your public health department. I stated with the Florida state health department with no experience and didn't even have my certification yet. I just passed my exam in Oct. and started working for them in March, I even failed my first exam(I was so sick I'm was shocked I didn't get kicked out of the exam). They have great benefits and are great to work with. I do chart auditing for ever super bill. I currently get to do everything form adult health, child health, OB antepartum, family planning and GYN. I was trained and I get paid decently. Check with your state employment agency for more information and don't give up. Be assertive and make them see what you can do. Also starting in a medical records position will help(I started working in a jail in medical records and that helped and there are some jails that actually code..not a dream job but a place to start) KEEP SEARCHING DON'T EVER GIVE UP...IT'S UP TO YOU TO SELL YOURSELF!!!

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    Thank you for your encouragement. It is a paradox that the association wants one to be experienced to be credentialed and the employer wants one to be credentialed before employement.

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    I am also a recent graduate and CPC-A. I have been looking for about three months now. Can anyone tell me what the roman numerals after coder mean? I have been seeing them alot in my job search.

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    ADWOOD you did a great post...!! I need to save that. Even looking for part time is hard for coders. I know, I've hunted part time for months before landing one. I have a full time with benefits, and part time for economy crunch. However, with that said---I had prior medical background in the insurance industry. That I believe was my saving grace entering this field. Otherwise, I would have had lots of money and the 2 yrs in college invested to have been forced to change careers. If you can get in on the insurance side, it helps. I know the pay isn't exactly what you may have wanted, or been told in the industry while going to school, and I'm sorry some make it pretty lucriative, when it's not. They have more insurance claim specialist, or data processing of claims. I feel it's the beginning for anyone going into this field. Some area's refuse to go remote, some want remote, and I know when I was in school that's all I wanted---and all I was told by instructors... YOU can work at home... but the truth is, unless you have been in an office, and worked hand in hand day to day doing some sort of medical, you will likely be last for a company to take a chance on. Sit down with a Sun. newspaper (don't rely just on the net), look at local medical jobs, and see what type of administrative clerical positions, ward clerks, anything that can get you in that door, you will have to do it. Yes, I've worked jobs I did not particularly care about, or care for the office staff--but I did it for a yr or 2, maybe even 3 yrs just to be able to get the experience to go. It's a sinking feeling when you have to say you are taking this position to get to the other position your degree or certifications match. I know, been there, you just grin and bare it all, and suck up all the knowledge, take notes, make your own file system, practice and teach yourself. I took home difficult reports, and would spend a week working on them to research all my options on that 1 claim just to inform myself to it's coding technique till I felt comfortable asking for more coding in that difficulty, and since I was practicing---they were watched me grow and gladly handed me more. It's truly not an easy career. Sorry, I didn't mean the post to go on, but I think people seem to take advantage of the newbies in the field (mainly the schools) who don't prepare them. With that said, I know a banker with 3 degrees, and he's doing something totally different than what his degrees are in because of the economy. Coders aren't the only ones who are having to make due to gain their experience.

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