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    I am in the process of finishing a billing and coding college certificate program. It includes a billing internship and a coding internship. I work slightly shorter hours than most so am hoping to gain some experience by looking for a non paying internship in coding or billing. Does anyone know what the consensus may be on that?

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    We hire coders!!!

    Rapidly growing Medical Billing & Practice Management Company located in Tempe, Arizona seeks experienced professionals to join the billing, coding, & A/R management team. We ONLY employ certified coders for all charge entry so new applicants will have the opportunity to work right alongside other professional coders and have an opportunity to share/gain valuable knowledge and experience. Department Director is also a CPC! Perfect opportunity for a CPC-A to learn and grow but seasoned coders also have a great opportunity for upward mobility with supervisory, auditing, and management positions as well.

    Competitive compensation package offered for desirable candidates. Health, Dental, and Vision plans available for full-time employees in addition to PTO, holiday pay, and fringe benefits.

    Full-time Compensation Range: $12-$18/hour + 2 weeks PTO + Benefits

    Email Resume to Careers@GoodHealthFinancial.Com


    Hi GHF,

    This sounds like an awesome opportunity and would love to take the opportunity; however, I'm in LA. I became certified last year in November and have not found a thing. All employers require experience but how do we gain the experience if no one is willing to give us the opportunity. Would you happen to know another billing company out in my area that is offering the same opportunity? Please advise at your earliest convenience.

    Thanks!

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    I started working for a billing company in the data entry department. I took an anatomy and a coding/billing class and then was able to move into the coding department. About half of the people in coding came from other departments. I am glad that I started where I did and transferred because there are things that I knew from data entry that were helpful in coding. I know I am fortunate to have done it that way and I am grateful that it has worked out.

    I know a couple of people that are taking coding/billing classes and I try to be encouraging but realistic. I tell them that there are many opportunities but that they might not be doing what they want right away. It does seem that some schools make it look like there are tons of jobs but honestly they're just trying to get your money.

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    This is from 2010!!!
    Really feel like there should NOT be any type of advertising for this profession as far as education, certification and job opportunity. Nine years of continued new grads not finding jobs is a huge problem. Nursing goes through cycles of hiring slow down and even freezes but never gets this bad. Nine years 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
    Realistically speaking, this is beyond the usual job saturation catch up game all job fields go through. Everyone should be aware of this issue. Itís almost dishonest not to make it available to potential students looking into coding programs.

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    You know, with these posts I have to remind myself of what is real and what is being posted. I truly feel for those who have been out the money for Coding school/online courses, and as a freshly minted CPC-A are trying to get experience, but are unable to get any for XYZ reasons. I've experienced first-hand the struggle to land a decent/good job, and being rejected time over time again for ABC reasons. It really sucks!

    However, with everything said (and you will find several of similar posts in Employment General Discussion), I think we are not seeing the full picture here. The people who are posting about not getting a Coding job because they are getting rejected due to lack of coding experience, but cannot get experience because they can't get a coding job (the job experience paradox) is really not exclusive to Coding. I've been trying to get into management for years, but rejected because I don't have enough management experience. Instead I chose to go into a more senior coding position, and in return probably making as much or exceeding the salary of a supervisor/manager.

    There are coding jobs out there. Truly, and this is not a magic, pretend fairy tale I am spinning you. If you cannot get hired because of the paradox explained above, then move onto the next company. Keep going until you find someone who are willing to hire those freshly minted CPC-As (and yes there are companies who prefer newbie coders compared to experienced ones), and nail your resumes/interviews with those companies. This might require a move or some commuting (I recently moved for my new job), but you also have to ask yourself how important getting that first coding job is.

    If your goal is remote coding, you won't realistically be able to work from home until you have at least 3-5 years of coding (some companies require more experience than that even), but definitely not as a CPC-A. You would be doing yourself a disfavor even if you attempted, because Coding is a life-long learning process. Even those coders who have been coding for 20+ years still tell me they learn every day.

    Unfortunately, we don't see many success posts of coders who were able to land jobs despite the gloomy picture being drawn here. Too often I see complaining in these threads about how unfair the industry is, and how instructors should prepare students that you might not get a job once you graduate. Perhaps the curriculum should include something more realistic, however I refuse to believe that getting hired is as disparaging as some people like to portray.

    Even if the doom and gloom scenario is true, then what are you personally doing about it? Are you just going to give up and throw all that time, effort and money away? If you took a coding course, then you're probably out a couple thousand dollars or so. Engage AAPC, AHIMA, and local instructors to do something about the problem you are describing. Perhaps find a billing job that deals somewhat with CPT/ICD-10 codes and tell your hiring manager that your goal is actual Coding. If that manager is worth her/his salt, then they will likely guide you into that direction (and if you show enough Grit and Promise).

    Final note: You did also revive a really old thread, while saying nothing about your own efforts or troubles. Your post resembles just another trollish move and whipping up another negative atmosphere. Cordial discussion is welcomed, but please bring something more substantial to the table first.

    EDIT: And by the way, we just had someone post a job for any coders (Coding I position), so as I was saying the jobs are out there if you are willing to make the effort to get them. Exert from the job post: "Must hold either AAPC Certified Professional Coder (CPC or CPC-A) or AHIMA Certified Coding Specialist-Physician-based (CCS-P) certifications.".
    Last edited by Pathos; 04-03-2019 at 11:04 AM.
    "When you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this: You haven't!"
    -Thomas Edison

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    I have to agree with Pathos...why and what purpose does it serve to revive such an old thread without any new/useful information?

    I actually hold both sides at fault in this...the student for not doing more research beyond the promises that some of these coding schools make in their advertisement of get rich quick coding from home and the schools for recruiting students in this manner. Not to say that this is true in all instances, but I have seen my share of this going on.

    Back when I first decided to change careers and to go into the medical field from education, rather than rush to a tech school, I researched and got a job with in customer service with a home health and DME company and then transitioned to hospital/clinic jobs. Once I began to learn more about the field and opportunities, I then began researching how to go about getting additional training in coding and used my position at that time to find a reputable coding program and transfer into coding. Once I proved myself as being invested enough to learn my employer agreed to send me to classes and with my good grades and passing my CPC, they agree to expand my duties to include coding. I have now been in healthcare/coding for 18 years and I still have trouble landing my dream job/pay!! Pathos you're not alone :-) It wasn't until 17 years later that I finally am able to work from home and the only reason is that I worked hard to get a positive reputation with the physicians/management of the company that I work for and when my husband and I moved almost a year ago, they were willing to work with me to make working remotely possible to keep my as an employee.

    The reason that I share my story is so that others might take heed and take the time/effort to work your way up and learn. I do not wish ill or negative on those searching, but please remember that sometimes it takes starting somewhere you didn't necessarily want to in the field. And by the way, sometimes it is HR directly the instruction regarding experience and not necessarily that of the manager themselves. We currently outsource our coding and one of the coders that I frequently interact with has been in the field for almost a year now and I have to give her credit for asking great questions and even keeping me on my toes sometimes!

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    I will say the best advice I can give is to apply to any position at your local hospital to get your foot in the door. Most hospitals only require you to work in a department 6 months and then you are eligible to transfer. I got my foot in the door as an office assistant and then applied for an open coding position as soon as I could transfer. Hospitals almost always post jobs internally first with internal candidates having a far greater chance than an outside candidates at getting the job. The hospital coding department I work for has hired mostly internal candidates because it's easier and a lot less training time that you require. There are quite a few CPCs that are going the same route and just getting their foot in the door, so the coding jobs are getting snatched up very quickly. It would take an outside coder a month or longer to go through orientation and training where if someone applies internally they report to the department after their 2 week notice. I know it's not ideal, but it's definitely something to think about.

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