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I am certified, but no job anyway !!!

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    Default I am certified, but no job anyway !!!
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    Hi, here is my story. For last 7 month I am looking for a job.
    1. Currently I am volunteer in the Hospital ( for 7 month)
    2. My willingness for a trial period without any obligation to hire me.
    3. I would be agree for ANY job with the medical records.
    4. I would be agree to drive far away every day from my place...
    5. I have so many references
    ( I can continue the list, but for what ? )
    Every time I got the question about experience as a medical coder. And without this experience nobody wants to try me.... What can I do? Does anybody know???
    Thanks for your time reading this!

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    I'm sure, as you've read postings on this board, you have learned that certification does not guarantee employment. So...you have to either shine, or think outside the box.

    Make sure your resume is top-notch. By that, I don't mean scads of experience: I mean is it well put together? Have you outlined your past experience and related as to how it could benefit you as a coder? I threw out a resume yesterday, there were three typos, and then a comment "excellent attention to detail". Excuse me???!! I had to laugh.

    Think outside the box. Send your resume to nursing homes, insurance companies, ambulance companies, billing agencies, home health agencies. Don't limit yourself to hospitals and physician offices. And be willing to start as a front desk person, because you'll gain experience, and you never know where it will lead. Twenty years ago, I was answering phones and posting payments.

    If you get an interview (and hopefully you will), remember appearance counts. Healthcare is not the place for artistic individuality. If you're sporting pink hair and fifteen piercings, perhaps advertising might be a better fit! Make sure your outfit meets the dress code. (no kidding, someone showed up in capris and flipflops...both of which are prohibited in most hospitals). Learn about the company that you interview with, because they might ask you, "What do you know about XYZ Hospital". And "nothing" is a bad answer.

    If you've been on interviews, but haven't been selected, ask why. Sometimes it's simply that you're not the right fit. But occasionally, it might be because you unwittingly did something that took you out of the running. I've 'disqualified' applicants for a number of things that made me think that they wouldn't be good employees:

    Cancelled and re-scheduled the interview because of personal issues. Red flag.
    Cell phone rang during interview.
    Used a 'bad' word during an interview. Hey, I can swear like a sailor, but not during a job interview!
    Couldn't tell me the difference between CPT and ICD-9.
    Didn't ask questions.


    Network. Join your local AAPC chapter. I've said this before, but my last entry level hire was someone I remembered from a meeting. Contact your local MGMA (Medical Group Management Association) and ask if you can post a resume.

    You say that you are currently volunteering. You might want to know the answer to this (or maybe not), but ask why you've not been able to secure full time work with them. Maybe they truly don't have an opening, but maybe it's something else. Nobody wants to be told that they're not the 'right' fit, but it's feedback you can use, and information is always valuable.

    I did want to make one more comment: This is a professional, public board. If you rant, whine and rave, you're setting yourself up for failure, because I (and other managers) check this board before we call people for interviews to see if you're a reasonable applicant. Also, if your screen name is something foolish like CannabisBabe, or DumbBlonde, guess what?! I'm not interested. I've seen some doozies on here.

    I hope this helps. I have seen the bazillion posts about coders unable to find work, and I wish I could help you all.... Good luck~!
    Pam Brooks, MHA, COC, PCS, CPC, AAPC Fellow
    Coding Manager
    Wentworth-Douglass Hospital
    Dover, NH 03820

    If you can dream it, you can do it. Walt Disney

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Brooks View Post
    I'm sure, as you've read postings on this board, you have learned that certification does not guarantee employment. So...you have to either shine, or think outside the box.

    Make sure your resume is top-notch. By that, I don't mean scads of experience: I mean is it well put together? Have you outlined your past experience and related as to how it could benefit you as a coder? I threw out a resume yesterday, there were three typos, and then a comment "excellent attention to detail". Excuse me???!! I had to laugh.

    Think outside the box. Send your resume to nursing homes, insurance companies, ambulance companies, billing agencies, home health agencies. Don't limit yourself to hospitals and physician offices. And be willing to start as a front desk person, because you'll gain experience, and you never know where it will lead. Twenty years ago, I was answering phones and posting payments.

    If you get an interview (and hopefully you will), remember appearance counts. Healthcare is not the place for artistic individuality. If you're sporting pink hair and fifteen piercings, perhaps advertising might be a better fit! Make sure your outfit meets the dress code. (no kidding, someone showed up in capris and flipflops...both of which are prohibited in most hospitals). Learn about the company that you interview with, because they might ask you, "What do you know about XYZ Hospital". And "nothing" is a bad answer.

    If you've been on interviews, but haven't been selected, ask why. Sometimes it's simply that you're not the right fit. But occasionally, it might be because you unwittingly did something that took you out of the running. I've 'disqualified' applicants for a number of things that made me think that they wouldn't be good employees:

    Cancelled and re-scheduled the interview because of personal issues. Red flag.
    Cell phone rang during interview.
    Used a 'bad' word during an interview. Hey, I can swear like a sailor, but not during a job interview!
    Couldn't tell me the difference between CPT and ICD-9.
    Didn't ask questions.


    Network. Join your local AAPC chapter. I've said this before, but my last entry level hire was someone I remembered from a meeting. Contact your local MGMA (Medical Group Management Association) and ask if you can post a resume.

    You say that you are currently volunteering. You might want to know the answer to this (or maybe not), but ask why you've not been able to secure full time work with them. Maybe they truly don't have an opening, but maybe it's something else. Nobody wants to be told that they're not the 'right' fit, but it's feedback you can use, and information is always valuable.

    I did want to make one more comment: This is a professional, public board. If you rant, whine and rave, you're setting yourself up for failure, because I (and other managers) check this board before we call people for interviews to see if you're a reasonable applicant. Also, if your screen name is something foolish like CannabisBabe, or DumbBlonde, guess what?! I'm not interested. I've seen some doozies on here.

    I hope this helps. I have seen the bazillion posts about coders unable to find work, and I wish I could help you all.... Good luck~!
    Pam,

    Your response was very well said and true.
    Yolanda T. Haskins CPC, CRC, OHCC, AAPC Fellow
    Past AAPCCA Board of Directors 2014 - 2017


    Alexandria, VA Chapter

    ~ Practice Kindness ~

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    Please send me your resume. I am not sure that the position is close enough to you. I have one at Andrews AFB, Maryland. I am afraid it would be a very long commute and that would put this out of your comfort zone. I would still at least like to look at your resume.
    Thanks,

    Vanessa Kieffer, CPC
    Coding Program Lead
    vkieffer@dptechsvc.com
    Last edited by zorba1951; 09-14-2010 at 08:56 AM.

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    Default Thanks a lot for the reply!
    Hello, Thanks a lot for the reply! I agree with EVERYTHING and trust me, I do not do anything wrong. I paid around 200$ for the professional help with my resume, I got all tips about the job searching & job interview , I look solid and smart ( at least look ). I have the general work experience and in the medical field as well, but NOT as a medical coder.
    I will keep looking for a job, because this is my DREAM - to be a medical coder. I alreday invested a lot of energy ( and of course money ) for my DREAM job. So, just wish me the best and thanks again for your answers on my post!

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