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I&D and OV with mod 25

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    I had a new patient come in the practice yesterday. She was seen for approx 30 minutes for an abcess on her buttocks before Dr. made the decision to I&D. Can I bill for both the OV and the I&D with a modifier 25?

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    I would code an office visit w/-57 and the I&D code, if of course there is supporting documentation.

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    25 would appropriate.

    Gina

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    would be appropriate but you need to code the ov with the symptom .... and the 25 but there is really ggod chance that they will not pay it because they will not pay for a procedure and ov on same day with same dx.... if they came in for something else then they will pay both

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    Quote Originally Posted by chelebell59 View Post
    would be appropriate but you need to code the ov with the symptom .... and the 25 but there is really ggod chance that they will not pay it because they will not pay for a procedure and ov on same day with same dx.... if they came in for something else then they will pay both
    Not necessarily true. Some carriers may have edits in place for this but a different DX is not required per CPT and MCR guidelines.

    B. CPT Modifier “-25” - Significant Evaluation and Management Service by Same Physician on Date of Global Procedure

    Medicare requires that Current Procedural Terminology (CPT) modifier -25 should only be used on claims for evaluation and management (E/M) services, and only when these services are provided by the same physician (or same qualified nonphysician practitioner) to the same patient on the same day as another procedure or other service. Carriers pay for an E/M service provided on the day of a procedure with a global fee period if the physician indicates that the service is for a significant, separately identifiable E/M service that is above and beyond the usual pre- and post-operative work of the procedure. Different diagnoses are not required for reporting the E/M service on the same date as the procedure or other service. Modifier -25 is added to the E/M code on the claim.

    -Chpt 12 of the Medicare Manual-

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    You would use 25 in this case.

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    Rebecca would you please explain why you feel the -57 is inappropriate?

    At the bottom of the -25 explanation the note states: This modifier is not used to report an E/M service that resulted in a decisionn to perform surgery. See modifier 57.

    -57 Decision for surgery: An evaluation and management service that resulted in the initial decision to perform the surgery may be identified by adding modifier 57 to the appropriate level of E/M service.

    Incision and Drainage is a surgery is it not?

    Thanks for your input.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lphillips View Post
    Rebecca would you please explain why you feel the -57 is inappropriate?

    At the bottom of the -25 explanation the note states: This modifier is not used to report an E/M service that resulted in a decisionn to perform surgery. See modifier 57.

    -57 Decision for surgery: An evaluation and management service that resulted in the initial decision to perform the surgery may be identified by adding modifier 57 to the appropriate level of E/M service.

    Incision and Drainage is a surgery is it not?

    Thanks for your input.
    Modifier 57 is not used with minor surgeries. Modifier 57 is used for those procedures designated as a "major surgery" (i.e. 90 day post op); decision to perform surgery day of or day before surgery (designated as major surgery). Modifier 25 is used for those procedures designated as a minor surgery (i.e. 10 days). In the original post, an I&D was referenced which normally carries a 10 day global period.
    Last edited by RebeccaWoodward*; 09-30-2010 at 10:27 AM.

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