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Required ICD 10 proficency test to keep CPC

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  2. #52
    Northeast Kansas (NEKAAPC)
    First of all-CONGRATULATIONS and welcome to the world of coding! All CPCs who credentialed prior to the implementation date (10/1/2014) will be required to take the proficiency assessment. If you took a coding course, your instructor should have shared that with the class.

    Congratulations on attending your first chapter meeting! You will find not only coding information at the meetings, but also a network of fellow coders and many coders connect with future employers as well.
    As far as the differences in ICD-9-CM to ICD-10-CM-the newer coders are at an advantage because you do not need to reprogram your thought process when coding.

    While you are "new" to our coding profession, you need to realize that many of us have been certified coders for a number of years. The certification we all hold indicates that we are proficient in CPT-4 and ICD-9-CM. The proficiency assessment will show that coders are also proficient in ICD10. There are costs associated with an on-line assessment; I can assure you the intent of AAPC is NOT to line their pockets. It is to offer the most affordable method of showing our proficiency with the new code set. AHIMA, the other nationally recognized coding organization, will require additional CEUs for their members to show their proficiency.

    If you attend a Code Set Training, you will see that we do emphasize exactly the points you are making-break the education into small, digestible pieces, don't overwhelm with sheer volume.

    AAPC membership is not limited to certified members and that is why there is a discrepancy in total number of members vs. certified members.

    As you can see, I am very passionate about my coding career and AAPC. I have been a member for 15 years and have seen this company grow into the number 1 coding organization that it is. I know there is a cost to operating any business and I also know that AAPC wants to keep things affordable to the members.

    I hope you will find your association with AAPC and your local chapter as rewarding and fulfilling as I have. If you are at either of the regional conferences or national conference next April, I would love to meet you!
    Brenda Edwards, CPC, CDEO, CPB, CPMA, CPC-I, CEMC, CRC
    AAPC Fellow
    AAPC ICD-10-CM/PCS Training Expert

    Kindness is contagious-PASS IT ON!

  3. #53
    Hey I would rather take a test that gives complete proof that I know ICD 10, CEU's DON'T show that you know the material just that you did complete the courses.

    As for the money, the AAPC does a lot for us whom are members that NO ONE see's because its behind the scenes, I have had the privilege to benefit from this over the last year.

    I for one again state I am in great support of this idea to test us and as for losing our credentials if we fail. We have proven ourselves with the current Coding Sets, we SHOULD have to prove ourselves with the new coding set. After all we are only as good as what we know for the current correct coding of claims.

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    I have no issue with having to take the ICD-10 proficiency test. However, since we take the time to obtain the CEU's necessary to maintain our credentials, pay the yearly membership fee and also work at our jobs which can involve working more than 40 hours per week, it would be nice to be able to take the test the first time at no charge. Then if we don't pass, assess a charge for taking it again.

    The implementation of ICD-10 has become a cash cow for a lot of organizations. The costs for us to attend training boot-camps, webinars, seminars, purchasing training books, etc., are hundreds of dollars. Are these high costs really necessary? Basic ICD-10 training is necessary, but the costs of all these "training sessions and learning tools" are extremely excessive.

    There has been too much hype put out for us to pay high dollars to obtain training regarding this transition. I recently attended a free 1 1/2 hour MLN webinar on ICD-10 Basics. It was very informative. That webiner, along with studying the ICD-10 guidelines, should help to pass the test.

    If you're good with ICD-9 now, and do your homework on ICD-10, then you will be good in the future.

  5. #55
    Dover Seacoast New Hampshire
    As someone who has spent the last four years gearing up for ICD-10, I have to say that I do understand everyone's frustration regarding the money spent as we implement this transition. However, I hope that you all think of your certifications as proof of your professional expertise, and consider the administrative costs as well as the operational costs of such an immense project as being not only necessary but reasonable. I do understand that it's a financial burden for unemployed coders, or those who work for practices who choose not to assist their coders with education. However, I'm also surprised to learn how many of these coders do not take advantage of their local chapters, where they can learn and network at the same time. Our chapter asks for a $10.00 fee to cover the luncheon and room, but the last three out-of-town chapter meetings I attended (no lunch) were absolutely free. And there were fewer than 20 people attending each of those three meetings. It's hard for me to understand why more coders don't take advantage of this resource and then complain about training costs.

    Let's think about other industries--your car mechanic has to attend training (not free) to keep up to date on the new technology that rolls off the assembly line each year new models are introduced. We certainly want our cars to be safe and reliable, so wouldn't we expect our mechanics to know what they're doing?

    Also in healthcare, clinicians have to stay up to date on new technology, new care models and changes in healthcare delivery. This ongoing training (again, not free) is essential to continue to provide quality care.
    It escapes me why we cannot seem to see the value of our CPC certifications in the very same way we respect the knowledge and experience in other fields. I am not so entitled that I think the AAPC should provide me with everything necessary to maintain my very own job. It is my responsibility to insure that I take care of myself and my career. I need to do this, plain and simple.

    With that, I certainly cannot and will not complain about the relatively small amount of cash I have to spend to retain my expertise in my chosen field. It would be a lot more costly for me to lose my job or to become unemployable.
    Pam Brooks, MHA, COC, PCS, CPC, AAPC Fellow
    Coding Manager
    Wentworth-Douglass Hospital
    Dover, NH 03820

    If you can dream it, you can do it. Walt Disney

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    How are you going to prove you know your I-10 without being certified? I was told that the test would be 2.5 hours and 75 questions. I, however, don't know that to be true. There's still a lot of time to change things.

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    Is there any new news anywhere regarding this exam and cost, when and how?

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    Stuart Sailfish Chapter
    The ICD-10 Proficiency Assessment is the only step of our training plan required for all certified AAPC members (excluding CPPM®, CPCO™, and CIRCC®). You should prepare yourself as you would for other exams or assessments. To ensure employers continue to have confidence in a certified coder's ability to accurately code the current code sets, AAPC certified members will have two years to pass an open-book, online, unproctored assessment.
    It will measure your understanding of ICD-10-CM format and structure, groupings and categories of codes, ICD-10-CM official guidelines, and coding concepts.
    • Required for all AAPC credential holders (excluding CPPM®, CPCO™, and CIRCC®), recommended for all others working with the new code set
    • Two (2) years to take and pass the assessment, beginning October 1, 2013 (one year before implementation of ICD-10) and ending September 30, 2015 (one year after implementation)
    • 75 questions, 3.5 hours, open-book, online, unproctored, use any resource available
    • Coders will have two (2) attempts at passing (reaching an 80% score) over a two year window (Oct 1, 2013 – Sept. 30, 2015) for the $60 administration fee
    • ICD-10-CM only (ICD-10-PCS will not be covered in the assessment)
    • No CEUs given
    Candice Fenildo, CPC, CPMA, CPC-I, CPB, CENTC, CRHC, AAPC Fellow
    Director of Operations
    Ear, Nose and Throat Associates of South Florida, PA

    "Nothing is stronger than the heart of a volunteer"

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    I am a newly credentialed CPC-H, however I do not “code” with ICD-9. I am not required to be CPC-H certified for my job, I strictly to work with the charge master & all the clinical departments to ensure they are using the appropriate CPT codes for the procedures that are performed and that they understand the use of the CPT codes. I believe in being certified for what I do & keeping up my CEU's, it helps me understand the use of each CPT codes & rules myself & helps me guide the clinical departments better. So to hear that I will lose my credentials if I do not pass the ICD-10 proficiency test with the two attempts actually sucks with the time and effort I put in to be CPC-H certified. I understand that this is unproctored & can use any tool available, but I will admit I am that person that would like to just take the CEU classes for the ICD-10 since I don't actually code.

  10. #60
    Northeast Kansas (NEKAAPC)
    The CPC-H credential is for hospital services, not facility side. Therefore, being ICD10 proficient is required. You can do it!!!
    Brenda Edwards, CPC, CDEO, CPB, CPMA, CPC-I, CEMC, CRC
    AAPC Fellow
    AAPC ICD-10-CM/PCS Training Expert

    Kindness is contagious-PASS IT ON!

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