AAPC - Back to school
Results 1 to 3 of 3

Thread: Modifier 80/ 82-Please help!

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2007

    Question Modifier 80/ 82-Please help!

    AAPC: Back to School
    Hello i need some guidance on this issue we are currently having....

    We are a teaching hospital that has a GME program. Our cardiac surgeons never involve residents in cardiac surgery. Does the assistant to the cardiac surgeon bill with an 80 modifier as long as there is an across the board policy that no resident would ever be utilized as the assistant to the cardiac case?

    Or does the 82 modifier still need to be appended along with an attestation even though a resident will never be utilized?

    I cannot find black and white information on this issue. Can someone please help me out? Does anyone out there have documentation on this? Thanks!!

  2. #2


    As per my understanding, YES, the Assistant surgeon ( the assisting Surgeon at Surgery) will report with the modifier 80. The question of -82 does not apply to your cardiology department as per its policy/and institional policy, (as your cardiac surgeons Made it a "policy''.
    This holds good with other subspecialties like Neurosurgery, renal transplant surgery cardiothoracic surgery etc
    The bottom line is it is at the discretion of the specialty surgeons and policy to include the residents or not, into the system of surgeries. In such situations the 82 is not applicable.

    Kindly read through the previous thread Modifier -62 and -66 and the postings therein. You will understand better.
    Does this make sense? I think it is, very well.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Milwaukee WI

    Default It's one sentence ...

    It's just one sentence ... how difficult is it for the surgeon to remember to state "no qualified resident available so Dr X assisted"? Do they want to get paid?

    We do not allow any department to have a blanket policy that they won't use residents. If they want to bill the assist, they need the "no qualified resident" statement in their operative note, and we then use -82 modifier for the assistant surgeon.

    Hope that helps.

    F Tessa Bartels, CPC, CEMC

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-18-2015, 01:17 PM
  2. Modifier 59 vs Modifier 91 for Laboratory
    By leahrey in forum Modifiers
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 06-23-2015, 12:01 PM
  3. MODIFIER PT VS MODIFIER 33 Screening Colonoscopy
    By Ann Johnson in forum Modifiers
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-19-2012, 07:08 AM
  4. Modifier 58 versus Modifier 78
    By Ramona03 in forum Medical Coding General Discussion
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 06-04-2012, 12:10 PM
  5. Modifier 51 Versus Modifier 59
    By Sborkowski in forum Modifiers
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 05-26-2009, 03:59 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Enjoying Our Forums?

AAPC forums are a benefit of membership. Joining AAPC grants you unlimited access, allowing you to post questions and participate with our community of over 150,000 professionals.

Join Now Continue Reading Without Full Access

Already a Member?


Close Message

In addition to full participation on AAPC forums, as a member you will be able to:

  • Access to the largest healthcare job database in the world.
  • Join over 150,000 members of the healthcare network in the world.
  • Be a part of an industry leading organization that drives the business side of healthcare.
  • Save anywhere from 10%-50% with exclusive member discounts on courses, books, study materials, and conferences.
  • Access to discounts at hundreds of restaurants, travel destinations, retail stores, and service providers. AAPC members also have opportunities to save on heath, life, and liability insurance.
  • Become a member of a local chapter and attend regular meetings.