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    I live in an area where remote coding is very limited. Yet, a fellow AAPC member who has a business is looking for experienced coders and not calling back. I live 10 miles from his office!!!! I am not an apprentice and definitely have the experience. I was under the impression that AAPC took pride in putting out the best of the best. Then why isn't a fellow member offering me a position?(He knows I am also an AAPC member.)It's not like there are tons of CPC's in this area. I feel like I have wasted alot of money and time to earn these crendentials.

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Houma, La.


    WOW! I became interested in coding because all the news was "Medical coding is the wave of the future". I already have a good job, but wanted to work from home. I don't have any experience in coding but I do have 20 years in the medical field. Is it really that hard to find employment? This is unbelievable!

  3. #13
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    Apr 2007
    Louisville, KY


    Allow me to weigh in again.

    Is it difficult to find a job? There is no "Yes" or "No" answer to this question. Too many variables exist. From experiences I've had or witnessed, the job market is very competitive right now--including coders. However, it is absolutely a thriving area of medicine.

    To add to that uphill battle of gaining employment, you have schools and recruiters trying to make money off of the viability within our field. Some of those schools/recruiters (program recruiters) inflate statistics or use them out of context in order to make profit off the successes that can be gained in coding/compliance/HIM/billing. These are the same ilk of unscrupulous individuals who market the "create your own home billing company" schemes.

    One particular national chain of colleges (that promote coding) uses the AAPC and AHIMA salary surveys to lure students into their program--never bothering to site that the survey data relies on Certified Professional Coders (and other credentialed individuals). When those students are informed that after a year of study they are neither prepared to take a certification, nor make the salary recruiters sited, they become very disillusioned and some choose careers outside our area. That is unfortunate.

    One thing I always reiterate to students: Recruiters are not (or rarely) coders themselves. It is best to take your advice, mentoring and direction from a veteran HIM professional, not someone in the mass media, someone promoting his/her own business(es), nor anyone with designs on your pocketbook and financial aid. That being said, I hope the folks here did not choose their career direction solely on the hopes that checks would just appear in the mail for them.

    Coding and its associated disciplines are duties I've grown to love. Without that valid interest, it is unlikely I'd have survived beyond my first job in the field. However, it was the thought of increased, stable salary that encouraged me to pursue my education and training in coding. The love of what I do is what has sustained me.

    Good luck to all!
    Kevin B. Shields, RHIT, CPCO, CCS, CPC, COC, CCS-P, CPC-P, CPC-I

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    York, Pa


    I was just reading thru this thread and it sounded familiar and then I realized I've seen this on other sites from the original poster...

    I do agree that for the majority of new coders it's hard to get that foot in the door and I always "your told" to go to school to have a better career and then once you've paid and finished your still kinda stuck because alot of employers say they want experience and how do they expect you to get the experience if no one will give you the chance... it's unfortunate...

    I once taught an icd-9 class at a local college and it's sad what some of these places tell the prospective "students" I had a class of 12 students some who were already in the medical field in someway and some that had no experience at all that were just taking these 12 week courses to get prepared and I applaude anyone for that but the first night of class one of the students and I got into a discussion about salary and she was "told" that she could start out doing billing/coding and make atleast $15 an hour to start, not in "our" part of the woods your not and I told her good luck, she went back to the director of the program and told her that I am now making her want to drop these classes because I'm telling her something differant than what she was 'reeled" into thinking... she didn' t drop my class and finished but still hasn't found any work and has emailed several times telling me "sorry" I just did not want to tell her something that I knew was not true, I've been in this for 15 plus years...

    I was maybe "lucky" because I was doing billing/coding 10 years before ever thinking of becoming certified... so in my case I just took the ISP program then the CPC exam and stayed with my current employer who never had a coder work for them, they always paid a consultant firm.. so for me it worked out and I got an excellent pay raise...

    I am thinking of venturing outside of my current employer I've been with them for 10 years now, just to see what else is out there I do alot of billing, reimbursement and A/R reconciliation I do educate the physicians and do internal auditing for the practice and I enjoy it all but don't think I want to do just "auditing" I like the variety and wish to continue that venture, don't get me wrong I like doing e/m auditing too and am glad to have that under my belt but just want to see what else is out there.

    Good luck to all the new coders and I wish you the best of luck in your careers...

    RThames, CPC

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    Apr 2007

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    Sometimes its not about the $$$$$$$ its about the knowledge and experience you've gained and the joy of doing what you've been trained to do, because you wanted to, not because you had to. Patience is a virtue, remember. Good Luck to you.

  6. #16
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    Apr 2007


    I have had a very different experience. I have been certified for about 4 years now and have had three different positions - all were between $15 and $25 an hour. DO NOT GIVE UP! Keep pushing forward and be determined in making your own opportunities happen. I will say that most people do generally need to put in some "learning time" before landing the high paying positions. I work both as a remote coder and also as an instructor currently and am earning an excellent wage, especially for the extremely rural area that I live in. There are excellent opportunities within this career path...do not be disuaded. I have some contacts in the Oklahoma and Kansas area's. If I can possibly be of any help to anyone in these areas please don't hesitate to let me know.

  7. #17


    My experience came through working in the health insurance industry. I worked in claims, then in an intermediary dept responsible to write the specs for programming benefits and policies, then onto writing and documenting medical and reimbursement policies. After being outsourced, I went to work at a local hospital and aside from the incredible amount of credentialing work I did, I also audited our ED, Urgent Care, Neurology and Critical care dept and taught a few education classes to our physician staff. All of it was a wonderful experience and I was fortunate to be able to return to the health insurance world some time later.

    Insurance still needs coders. My company uses them in the audit and recovery dept which performs billing validation on both physician and facility claims. They are also needed in the medical policy area, and contracting support (think fee development!).

    Sometimes you need to go around a stumbling block while you figure out how to get over the block Keep looking and keep trying! You'll gain experience with each job.


  8. #18
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Tacoma Washington


    Kevin....I think you need another job just to support the annual fees and CEU's associated with all of those credentials. I bow down to you.

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    I am a newly certified coder as well. I am interested in traveling with the coding profession. Are there any consulting firms that you would recommend?
    Last edited by msbrowning; 11-24-2007 at 03:07 PM.

  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by stocks22 View Post
    I have been trying to find a coding job for a year now. Where are the jobs? I mean good paying jobs. I don't mean $14 an hour. I am thinking of switching careers back to telecom. I don't think coding pays unless you have at least a decade under our belt.

    Tell me something different.
    email me: fay.l@comcast.net
    I totally agree. I've been looking for a year for a job and nothings coming up or you don't have the experience or your just black; so no one will hire you. I would settle for $14.00 an hour but no oner will even offer that to me.

    Help me out.
    Email me: Ciera.Dixon@gmail.com

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