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  1. Default Medicare Annual Pe with E/M charge questions
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    Provider wanting to bill Annual Pe and 99214. Patient has Sterling. Should I bill the G0439 due to her coming in for annual pe. I know its not stated as Annual Wellness Vistit... No pap was done. Please see document below any advice would be great!


    Primary Provider:
    CC: Annual PE.

    History of Present Illness:
    In for yearly exam. She has decreased her plaquenil to once daily due to some concerns from the opthalmologist regarding possible toxicity. She has noticed some increased achiness on the lower dose. She has stopped the ibuprofen due to stomach upset.

    She reports pain in her right side that radiates into her leg off and on. Worse in the mornings and at times makes it difficult to walk. She has a hard time pin-pointing the area of pain- points to outside of her hip, but also to her lower ribs and her right buttock.

    Blood pressures have been under good control- occasionally running as low as 95/63. She wonders if she can go off some of her medication. Needs refill on micardis.

    She has h/o osteoporosis of the spine and has undergone one reclast infusion which she tolerated ok. Is wondering if she needs to have another one. Last bone density test was over 2 years ago.

    She is up to date on colonoscopy. She is due for mammogram. Had pap last year that was normal and has never had abnormal. She had fasting labwork done this summer that showed normal lipids; GFR reduced slightly.

    Past Medical History:
    Reviewed history from 06/21/2010 and no changes required:
    Patient indicates medical history of hypertension, osteopenia. Other medical history includes: osteoarthritis, sjogren's disease, rosacea

    Past Surgical History:
    Patient reports surgical history to include: tonsillectomy, tubal ligation, varicose vein surgery. cataract surgery; colonoscopy 2010

    Family History:
    Reviewed history from 06/21/2010 and no changes required:
    Father is deceased. He died of disease. Mother is deceased. The patient indicates family history of colon cancer (mother), prostate cancer (father, brother), stroke (brother), coronary artery disease (brother), osteoporosis (mother), arthritis (brother). brother- leukemia

    Social History:
    Reviewed history from 12/28/2006 and no changes required:
    She lives with her spouse. She is Married.

    Risk Factors:

    Tobacco use: never
    Passive smoke exposure: no
    HIV high-risk behavior: no
    Caffeine use: Drinks coffee, tea times per day.
    Alcohol use: yes
    Type: Drinks wine, liquor 1 time per month having 1-2 per occasion. Never has more than five drinks per occasion.
    Exercise: yes
    Times per week: 3-4 /wk
    Type: walking, aerobics
    Seatbelt use: 100 %

    Family History Risk Factors:
    Family History of MI in females < 65 years old: no
    Family History of MI in males < 55 years old: no

    Review of Systems

    General
    Denies fever.

    ENT
    Denies nasal congestion and sore throat.

    CV
    Denies chest pain or discomfort, racing/skipping heart beats, and swelling of hands or feet.

    Resp
    Denies cough and shortness of breath.

    GI
    Denies nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, diarrhea, and constipation.

    GU
    Denies painful urination.

    MS
    Complains of joint pain.

    Derm
    Denies suspicious lesions and rash.

    Neuro
    Denies numbness and weakness.

    Vital Signs:

    Patient Profile: 76 Years Old Female
    Height: 61.5 inches
    Weight: 148.5 pounds
    BMI: 27.70
    BSA: 1.68
    Temp: 96.0 degrees F tympanic
    Pulse rate: 68 / minute
    Pulse rhythm: regular
    BP sitting: 122 / 78 (left arm)
    Cuff size: regular

    Vitals Entered By:

    Physical Exam

    General:
    well developed, well nourished, in no acute distress.
    Neck:
    no masses, thyromegaly, or abnormal cervical nodes. no bruit.
    Breasts:
    no masses, adenopathy or nipple discharge.
    Lungs:
    clear bilaterally to auscultation.
    Heart:
    regular rate and rhythm, S1, S2 without murmurs, rubs, or gallops
    Abdomen:
    normal bowel sounds; no hepatosplenomegaly no ventral,umbilical hernias or masses noted.
    Genitalia:
    normal female external genitalia. uterus small, anterior; adnexa not palpable on bimanual exam
    Msk:
    I can elicit no bony tenderness of iliac crest or ribs on palpation; there is some tenderness of the right greater trochanter of the hip; there is some tenderness of the right SI joint
    Pulses:
    pedal pulses full
    Extremities:
    no edema
    Skin:
    occasional seborrheic keratoses; no worrisome lesions
    Cervical Nodes:
    no significant adenopathy.
    Axillary Nodes:
    no significant adenopathy.
    Psych:
    alert and cooperative; normal mood and affect; normal attention span and concentration.


    Impression & Recommendations:

    Problem # 1: WELL ADULT EXAM (ICD-V70.0)
    pap deferred; mammogram order given; up to date on colonoscopy

    Problem # 2: OSTEOPENIA (ICD-733.90)

    Her updated medication list for this problem includes:
    Calcium Citrate Tabs (Calcium citrate tabs) ..... 1 tab po qd
    Vitamin D3 2000 Unit Caps (Cholecalciferol) ..... 1 tab po qd

    will get bone density test done; probably does not need reclast

    Orders:
    DXA BONE DENSITY STUDY 1+ SITS AXIAL SKEL (CPT-77080)


    Problem # 3: HYPERTENSION (ICD-401.9)

    Her updated medication list for this problem includes:
    Amlodipine Besylate 5 Mg Tabs (Amlodipine besylate) ..... 1/2 po daily
    Micardis Hct 80-12.5 Mg Tabs (Telmisartan-hctz) ..... 1 tab po once daily

    she will decrease amlodipine to 2.5mg daily for one month and if BP's stay within goal range, she can d/c that medication; if BPs start running over 135/85 shs should restart the med


    Problem # 4: CONNECTIVE TISSUE DISEASE, UNDIFFERENTIATED (ICD-710.9)
    she will stop the plaquenil and let me know in 4-6 weeks how she is doing with pain levels; call if the right sided hip pain becomes more pronounced or persistent

    Medications Added to Medication List This Visit:
    1) Amlodipine Besylate 5 Mg Tabs (Amlodipine besylate) .... 1/2 po daily
    2) Omega 3 Cpdr (Omega-3 fatty acids cpdr) .... 1 tab po qd
    3) Calcium Citrate Tabs (Calcium citrate tabs) .... 1 tab po qd
    4) Vitamin D3 2000 Unit Caps (Cholecalciferol) .... 1 tab po qd
    5) Century Mature Tabs (Multiple vitamins-minerals) .... 1 tab po qd

    Other Orders:
    Mammogram, Bilateral Screening (CPT-76091)

    Prescriptions:
    MICARDIS HCT 80-12.5 MG TABS (TELMISARTAN-HCTZ) 1 tab PO once daily #90 x 0

  2. Default medicare PE
    There is no Annual Medicare PX. There is the welcome to Medicare physical, which needs to have happened within 12 months of their enrollment. Starting 12 months after that asw of this year they can get an ANNUAL Wellness Visit which is NOT the same as a physical. You need to Go to the Medicare website and search Annual Wellness Visit to see what specifically is covered and what needs to be documented. My family practice docs were also under the assumption that the AWE is a physical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjb5019 View Post
    There is no Annual Medicare PX. There is the welcome to Medicare physical, which needs to have happened within 12 months of their enrollment. Starting 12 months after that asw of this year they can get an ANNUAL Wellness Visit which is NOT the same as a physical. You need to Go to the Medicare website and search Annual Wellness Visit to see what specifically is covered and what needs to be documented. My family practice docs were also under the assumption that the AWE is a physical.
    I think she means a 99396-99397 for the physical the provider performed. Atleast that's what i am getting out of this. Which is not a covered service under Medicare but i would still bill this out, Medicare will say it's PR.
    Roxanne Thames CPC, CPC-I, CEMC
    rthamescpci@gmail.com


    "Remember the greatest gift is not found in the store but in the heart of true friends"

  4. Smile Medicare
    HI EVERYONE I AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THIS ALSO I WORK AT A FAMILY PRACTICE AND WE HAVE BEEN GETTING DENIALS FROM MEDICARE FOR THE ANNUAL PYSICALS I FINALLY FOUND OUT THAT WE USE G0439 BUT THE CPT CODE THAT I USE IS NOT ACCEPTED BY THEM. SO IM AT A DEAD END BECAUSE NOBODY WILL ANSWER MY QUESTION OR GIVE ME ANY INSIGHT TO THIS SOLUTION WE WERE USING V70.0 BUT AS YOU KNOW MEDICARE DOES NOT COVER ROUTINE EXAMS AND THATS ALL THIS PRACTICE HAS BEEN USING SO IM KIND OF AT A HAULT.


    iF ANYONE CAN SHED SOME INSIGHT PLEASE DO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katesanchezoo@yahoo.com View Post
    HI EVERYONE I AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THIS ALSO I WORK AT A FAMILY PRACTICE AND WE HAVE BEEN GETTING DENIALS FROM MEDICARE FOR THE ANNUAL PYSICALS I FINALLY FOUND OUT THAT WE USE G0439 BUT THE CPT CODE THAT I USE IS NOT ACCEPTED BY THEM. SO IM AT A DEAD END BECAUSE NOBODY WILL ANSWER MY QUESTION OR GIVE ME ANY INSIGHT TO THIS SOLUTION WE WERE USING V70.0 BUT AS YOU KNOW MEDICARE DOES NOT COVER ROUTINE EXAMS AND THATS ALL THIS PRACTICE HAS BEEN USING SO IM KIND OF AT A HAULT.


    iF ANYONE CAN SHED SOME INSIGHT PLEASE DO.
    If I were to hazard a guess, if you find that G0439's are being denied it is due to the patient not previously having had a G0438.

    There are 3 Medicare wellness visits:

    G0402 - Welcome to Medicare. Patient is eligible for the first year after Medicare Part B kicks in. This is the only code that will be accepted by Medicare during the first year and has specific guidelines that need to be met, notably, end of life planning, which is not required in the next two codes.

    G0438 - Annual Wellness Visit, Initial. If the patient is beyond their first year of Medicare eligibility and has not previously had a Annual Wellness Visit, then this is the proper code, regardless of how long the patient has been eligible for Medicare.

    G0439 - Annual Wellness Visit, Subsequent. This is only appropriate if the patient has previously had a G0438. Of note, G0438 & G0439 are new benefits as of 2011, therefore it is impossible to have billed G0439 during 2011 (though a number of my providers tried--and some even got paid ).

    It is important to stress this is not a CPE. We have found that many patients have come in for their "Medicare physical" and the provider does a regular physical, which is not covered. We end up eating the charge because the front end staff didn't clearly ascertain that the patient was here for an Annual Wellness Visit. Because of the specific requirements of the Annual Wellness Visit (depression screen, safety screen, cognitive check, etc.) 99.9% of the time a CPE cannot be recoded as an AWV.
    L. Mark Kozu, COC, CPC, CCC

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