Has anyone heard of any changes in regard to the Rules of Nines in regard to burns?
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Betsy
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Betsy
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Wiki Rules of Nines - heard of any changes
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mitchellde
True Blue
I am not sure it would be possible to change the rule of nines, can you elaborate?
MnTwins29
True Blue
I have not heard of any changes - in fact, the ICD-10-CM guidelines, under chapter 19, section d (6) specifically state that categories T31 and T32 are based on the "classic 'rule of nines' in estimating body surface involved..." So I don't know where that would have been stated or published...
d_imparato
Networker
Betsy,
Are you referring to the new 2014 CPT codes 16000-16036 for burns? The New classification chart uses the Lund-Browder method that takes into consideration the body surface area of different surface area of patients of different ages.
If you can view the On Demand webinars the CPT 2014 Updates presented on Nov 26, 2013 covered this on slide 15.
I hope this helps!
LaDonna Imparato, LPN, CPC-A, AAS
Clinical Appeals Specialist
Are you referring to the new 2014 CPT codes 16000-16036 for burns? The New classification chart uses the Lund-Browder method that takes into consideration the body surface area of different surface area of patients of different ages.
If you can view the On Demand webinars the CPT 2014 Updates presented on Nov 26, 2013 covered this on slide 15.
I hope this helps!
LaDonna Imparato, LPN, CPC-A, AAS
Clinical Appeals Specialist
Thank you, guys... LaDonna, I think what you indicated is what I had heard. So Lance, I think it was more in relation to the CPT codes, vs the DX codes.
So, help me out, for assigning a cpt code, the Lund Browder Diagram would be used, and when assigning the dx code, the rule of nines applies?
I am not sure I understand the two. Any clarification would be appreciated.
Thank You
So, help me out, for assigning a cpt code, the Lund Browder Diagram would be used, and when assigning the dx code, the rule of nines applies?
I am not sure I understand the two. Any clarification would be appreciated.
Thank You
d_imparato
Networker
Yes Betsy, that is my understanding as well. Only the CPT has been changed to use the Lund-Browder method at this time.
I am glad I could help
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Have a nice day!
LaDonna Imparato, LPN, CPC-A, AAS
Clinical Appeals Specialist
I am glad I could help
.Have a nice day!
LaDonna Imparato, LPN, CPC-A, AAS
Clinical Appeals Specialist
cmartin
Guru
My employer only bought the standard edition cpt books this year, and the only way you'd know anything about this change in the approved method of calculation is the errata correction to the Lund-Browder chart, which, along with any reference thereto, seems to be appallingly absent from the standard edition. I understand this edition doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but I was under the impression that it contained all the actual necessities. If there's anything about Lund-Browder in this book, I can't find it.