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Wiki Conflicting documentation where we are unable to query provider (Morbid Obesity & BMI)

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We're at a crossroads on this scenario & would really appreciate feedback & if possible valid resources:
Per Coding Clinic, Fourth Quarter 2018, and also noted in the Official Guidelines for Coding and Reporting, Section I.A.19, “The assignment of a diagnosis code is based on the provider’s diagnostic statement that the condition exists. The provider’s statement that the patient has a particular condition is sufficient. Code assignment is not based on clinical criteria used by the provider to establish the diagnosis. At what point, if ever, does documented clinical criteria (e.g., a BMI of 18 with a diagnosis of morbid obesity) constitute conflicting documentation that would potentially be an issue of undue overpayment? Does the responsibility always rest with the provider’s discretion, or are there scenarios where coders may not pick up the diagnosis based on clinical indicators? In retrospective coding scenarios where querying the provider is not feasible and a final coding decision is required, should coders adhere strictly to the provider’s documented diagnosis per Coding Clinic guidance, or disregard the diagnosis all together to address potential conflicts? (Granted if there is NO BMI noted, there is nothing conflicting per se so this inquiry is only asking when it seems to be conflicting).
Also, please clarify if this portion of the General portion of the ICD10- CM Guidelines I.B.14 where it states: If there is conflicting medical record documentation, either from the same clinician or different clinicians, the patient’s provider should be queried for clarification has a role in determining if coders should query and if unable to query, should coders disregard the dx as conflicting? Thank you!
 
coders should query the provider if documentation having conflict. for example in obesity guidelines for morbid obesity, BMI should be 40+, However provider document the BMI value is18. its purely conflicting. in this case we should query the provider to get better clarity for correct coding to avoid denials. I hope it helps.
 
"Diagnoses of obesity and morbid obesity are always clinically significant and should always be reported. A diagnosis noted in the history of present illness (HPI), assessment, or discharge summary suffices without other support
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We're at a crossroads on this scenario & would really appreciate feedback & if possible valid resources:
Per Coding Clinic, Fourth Quarter 2018, and also noted in the Official Guidelines for Coding and Reporting, Section I.A.19, “The assignment of a diagnosis code is based on the provider’s diagnostic statement that the condition exists. The provider’s statement that the patient has a particular condition is sufficient. Code assignment is not based on clinical criteria used by the provider to establish the diagnosis. At what point, if ever, does documented clinical criteria (e.g., a BMI of 18 with a diagnosis of morbid obesity) constitute conflicting documentation that would potentially be an issue of undue overpayment? Does the responsibility always rest with the provider’s discretion, or are there scenarios where coders may not pick up the diagnosis based on clinical indicators? In retrospective coding scenarios where querying the provider is not feasible and a final coding decision is required, should coders adhere strictly to the provider’s documented diagnosis per Coding Clinic guidance, or disregard the diagnosis all together to address potential conflicts? (Granted if there is NO BMI noted, there is nothing conflicting per se so this inquiry is only asking when it seems to be conflicting).
Also, please clarify if this portion of the General portion of the ICD10- CM Guidelines I.B.14 where it states: If there is conflicting medical record documentation, either from the same clinician or different clinicians, the patient’s provider should be queried for clarification has a role in determining if coders should query and if unable to query, should coders disregard the dx as conflicting? Thank you!
Kanoepascual
If it is in the current documentation of the patient vitals such as temperature, weight, height, B.Pressure then BMI % should be listed too by nurse. Coders are allowed to pull that data link with E66 dx code of obesity. Vitals usually taken by nurse in record for the day;then ;you can code the dx Z68 BMI percentage. however, it must be documented by the provider saying pt is Obese in which listed as diagnosis for the day. Do not use BMI if the female patient is pregnant though per ICD10 manual guidelines.
I hope helped you :)
Lady T
 
If you are unable to query, the provider has diagnosed morbid obesity. I would code morbid obesity with an additional code to identify BMI.
It could be that the BMI is incorrect. 🤷‍♀️
 
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