I'm not really worried about Medicare since a traditional PE is statutorily non-covered; other than the "Welcome to MCR PE", thus would become patient responsibility (with notice of course) once carved out. The current CPT book still includes the new problem oriented with the preventive guidelines.... "Modifier 25 should be reported with 99201-99215 to indicate that a significant....."
New PE w/ New problem oriented reporting can and does exist...If it's in black in white, which it is, I'm following those guidelines since I have tangible proof from an authoritative source in case there is a need for an appeal.
As stated earlier, this will certainly boil down to carrier guidelines but the fact is that some carriers still pay for 2 New E/M's based on proper documentation...
UHC=Preventive Medicine services codes 99381-99387, 99391-99397,G0402 include annual physical and well child examinations, usually separate from disease-related diagnoses. Occasionally, an abnormality is encountered or a pre-existing problem is addressed during the Preventive visit, and significant elements of related Evaluation and Management (E/M) services are provided during the same visit. When this occurs, UnitedHealthcare will reimburse the Preventive Medicine service plus 50% of one of the following problem-oriented E/M service codes only--99201-99205 or 99212-99215--when that code is appended with modifier 25. If the problem-oriented service is minor, or if the code is not submitted with modifier 25 appended, it will not be reimbursed.
G. Reporting a Medically Necessary E/M Service at the Same IPPE Visit (MCR Manual-Chpt 12)
When the physician or qualified NPP provides a medically necessary E/M service in addition to the IPPE, CPT codes 99201 – 99215 may be used depending on the clinical appropriateness of the circumstances. CPT Modifier –25 shall be appended to the medically necessary E/M service identifying this service as a significant, separately identifiable service from the IPPE code reported (G0344 or G0402, whichever applies based on the date the IPPE is performed). NOTE: Some of the components of a medically necessary E/M service (e.g., a portion of history or physical exam portion) may have been part of the IPPE and should not be included when determining the most appropriate level of E/M service to be billed for the medically necessary E/M service.