Wiki Billing a PE and E/M together

[kwhite2008]

Question forum,

When a new patient visit occurs and they have a PE plus a regular e/m sick visit, do you bill the PE and e/m both as new patient or only the PE as new pt and the e/m sick visit as established?
The way I see it even though you are billing two different visit codes the patient is still a new patient on that encounter but want other thoughts?

Thanks!

 

[csamps/CPC]

You should billed the PE as a new patient and the E/M as an established patient. I hope this helps!

 

[mjb5019]

Level E&M

I always had trouble deciding on a level for the office visit portion because they can't use anything that was part of the physical as points for the office visit. How do you all handle that.