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Our providers are beginning to use consultation codes (99241-99245) here in the office if there is a provider referring their patient to us. We are aware this patient can be new or established with our office and Medicare does not do this. However, we have two questions:

1. In the referral, does the SPECIFIC provider have to be the one who is being referred? Or can it just be the practice name? Example: Dr Christopher Roberts versus Center for Orthopaedics and Sports Medicine. Would Dr. Roberts be eligible to see this patient and bill for a consult code even if his name was not listed on the referral, but his practice was instead?

2. If the patient was seen by us for their right knee a year ago and the referral that we recently received is for a right knee consultation, would that be eligible for a consult code even if we have treated in the PAST?

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The misunderstanding, overuse and abuse of consultation codes is why over 90% of carriers (not just Medicare) will no longer pay them. The physician meaning of consultation is very different than the coding requirements of a consultation. I suggest you read the requirements for consultation CPT codes. IF (and its a big if) the services meet all the requirements, AND the carrier recognizes them, 9924x is appropriate. Otherwise, you should be billing 99202-99215. Even in subspecialties, we rarely if ever use consultation codes any longer.
A forum search of "consultation" will provide you with plenty of references.
 
Agree as above. Also, rare for any payer to cover a consult code except maybe WC (still rare) or a random MCD plan. I would suggest you read the CPT guidelines for the definition of a consult code and what must be met.
What conference or peer were the providers "talking to" that they suddenly started coding these? Is it only one provider or all providers? Who made that decision? ;):LOL::ROFLMAO::geek: Sounds like Dr. Roberts is new to your practice and maybe came from another group, hospital, or new grad who may need your coding guidance. Side note - if you have a new provider to the practice they should be on 100% coding review for a period of time for just this reason. Also, be on the lookout for sudden coding changes when they return from conventions and conferences when they were, "talking with their friends/peers" from other states and practices.

Most internal coding systems have an edit set up for these CPTs for this specific reason. Even if a provider codes it, it should stop for coder review because it is most likely incorrectly coded.

Google or look up the "3 Rs" for consults.

In my work as an auditor, what I see is, even when/if a rare payer allows consults, they are rarely (to never) coded or documented correctly.
 
amyjph said:
Agree as above. Also, rare for any payer to cover a consult code except maybe WC (still rare) or a random MCD plan. I would suggest you read the CPT guidelines for the definition of a consult code and what must be met.
What conference or peer were the providers "talking to" that they suddenly started coding these? Is it only one provider or all providers? Who made that decision? ;):LOL::ROFLMAO::geek: Sounds like Dr. Roberts is new to your practice and maybe came from another group, hospital, or new grad who may need your coding guidance. Side note - if you have a new provider to the practice they should be on 100% coding review for a period of time for just this reason. Also, be on the lookout for sudden coding changes when they return from conventions and conferences when they were, "talking with their friends/peers" from other states and practices.

Most internal coding systems have an edit set up for these CPTs for this specific reason. Even if a provider codes it, it should stop for coder review because it is most likely incorrectly coded.

Google or look up the "3 Rs" for consults.

In my work as an auditor, what I see is, even when/if a rare payer allows consults, they are rarely (to never) coded or documented correctly.
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My question falls a little differently than the above discussion but wondering if you could help me please? If a medical office patient is referred to the ER and my provider does nothing under "risk of complication and/or morbidity " on the MDM table. Does that fall into 99212 "consult/referral without elaboration" or would it be under high risk 99215 " Decision or consideration for hospitalization or alternative levels of care." ? I have to educate providers on this and I am not sure of myself? Any advice?
 
Brenda1973 said:
My question falls a little differently than the above discussion but wondering if you could help me please? If a medical office patient is referred to the ER and my provider does nothing under "risk of complication and/or morbidity " on the MDM table. Does that fall into 99212 "consult/referral without elaboration" or would it be under high risk 99215 " Decision or consideration for hospitalization or alternative levels of care." ? I have to educate providers on this and I am not sure of myself? Any advice?
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Hi, Brenda. I'd recommend posting you question as a new thread on the board. You are far more likely to get an answer than having your question buried in another thread. Regardless, I hope you get your answer soon 😊😊😊

Tracy
 
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